Hi Flor, That certainly brought some more clarification to the subject! In the meantime I went to Jaws help, which certainly for most of us when in Jaws press alt & h, arrow down and enter on your desired topic, reading it by pressing F6! There is an amount of information there which I didn't have the time to go through but it looks good! My wife and I are off to Jersey early in the morning for our wedding anniversary so don't think it rude of me that I do not respond immediately to any follow up emails or tutorials on the Jaws cursor! Tony. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:27 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor > Hi Tony, > > To make the JAWS cursor follow the PC cursor, hit ctrl+insert+numpad [or > numpad minus] - ctrl + route JAWS to PC - which is a toggle between "JAWS > cursor will follow/will not follow the PC cursor". If JAWS says, upon that > key combo, "JAWS cursor will follow the PC cursor" you are 'good to go', so > you should then get your result as you desired. . > > Now, before Paul gets to work, in the interim, here are a few prelim notes > on mouse-clicks. > > -- Singl-left-click is similar to making a selection; sometimes used to make > checkmarks; > single right-click is much the same as accessing the _Context menu_ - > whatever is defined as the 'context menu' at the point of reference - also > shift+F10 on the keyboard. > Double left-click is much the same as hitting the ENTER key, or spacebar (to > ok a dialogue.) > > [Correspondences between the physical mouse and JAWS mouse emulation aare > approximate, not always exact] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:11 PM > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor > > > Hi Flor, Thank you for sending that! > > Now what I would like would be an easy to understand tutorial on the subject > say for example explaining certain terms such as, active cursor, or, > invisible cursor, along with say a simple explanation of the mouse keys > such as, right click, left click, and double clicking!! > > It is probably simple enough for some of us but for those new to > screenreaders and who may never have used the mouse before it may not > initially be all that simple! > > I am still wondering that when I route Jaws to PC I am not where I was > before, say if I was checking the spelling of say a name in the, from, > field of an email, I can't do that but when I route Jaws to PC it loses > focus of where I was with that email, although I do finally find the email > and the the name in the, from, field and get the spelling that way! > eventually!! > > I have for example Mcafee installed and to do a scan I have to route Jaws to > PC and then press the left mouse button and it then scans for me! > > The advantages of for example routing jaws to PC would be good to learn! > > There are a number of advantages in changing focus at times , which would > be good to have explained more! > > Looking forward to more on this subject, and Paul's mentioned tutorial too > when he gets the chance to so do! > > Thanks again. > > Perhaps now we should all await Paul's tutorial on the subject which should > be another cracker!! > > Tony. > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx> > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:42 AM > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor > > > > Hi Tony, > > > > You would not often have to route PC to JAWS - or at least, I hope not so > > often - but if you need to access say the Next button and it was not > > otherwise accessible, you would do this. (Some situations in Microsoft > > Access may warrant this usage.) > > And here's a yet more detailed piece from the JAWS Help system, that > > wonderful fount of knowledge! Remember, anybody: You can use the Search > > facility provided by JAWS within JAWS hel Topics. [If you press ctrl+tab, > > you will come to an Index editfield; press it again, and you will come to > a > > search editfield. Here, type in your search term - no need for quotes, > just > > the word(s) you want to look up. > > > > Additional Notes on JAWS Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation > > PC Cursor (NUM PAD PLUS) > > This command changes the active cursor to the PC cursor. > > JAWS Cursor (NUM PAD MINUS) > > This command changes the active cursor to the JAWS cursor. > > > > Invisible Cursor (NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly) > > This command changes the active cursor to the Invisible cursor. > > > > Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor (INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS) > > This command moves the PC Cursor to the location of the JAWS Cursor. This > > command has no effect if the JAWS Cursor is in a part of the application > > that will not support the PC Cursor. > > > > Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor (INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS) > > This command moves the JAWS Cursor to the location of the PC Cursor. If > the > > Invisible Cursor is active when this keystroke is used, the Invisible > Cursor > > is moved to the location of the PC Cursor. > > > > Tether JAWS to PC (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS) > > This command causes the JAWS Cursor to follow the PC Cursor as it moves > > around the screen. Press the command twice quickly to save this setting > > across sessions. > > > > Restrict JAWS Cursor (INSERT+R) > > This command toggles restriction levels for the JAWS and Invisible > cursors. > > There are four levels of restriction. Application Window Restriction > > restricts the JAWS or Invisible cursors to the current application window. > > Current Window Restriction restricts the JAWS or Invisible cursors to the > > current window. This is very useful in a text box or a window with > multiple > > panes displaying information. Frame restriction restricts the JAWS or > > Invisible Cursors to the current frame. Unrestricted removes all > > restrictions on movement of the JAWS or Invisible cursors within the > display > > area. > > > > Left Mouse Button (NUM PAD SLASH) > > This command simulates a single left mouse button click. Press the command > > twice quickly to simulate a left mouse button double click. > > > > Right Mouse Button (NUM PAD STAR) > > This command simulates a single right mouse button click. Press the > command > > twice quickly to simulate a right mouse button double click. > > > > Left Mouse Button Lock (INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) > > This command simulates pressing down the left mouse button and holding it. > > Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the arrow keys. JAWS will > > not speak until INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH is pressed again to unlock the left > > mouse button. This command can be used to drag items from one location and > > drop them in another. > > > > Right Mouse Button Lock (INSERT+NUM PAD STAR) > > This command simulates pressing down the right mouse button and holding > it. > > Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the arrow keys. JAWS will > > not speak until INSERT+NUM PAD STAR is pressed again to unlock the right > > mouse button. This command can be used to drag items from one location and > > drop them in another. When the command is pressed a second time to unlock > > the right mouse button, a menu may appear with options such as Copy Here, > > Move Here, and Create Shortcut Here. > > > > Drag and Drop (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH) > > This command is used to drag items from one location and drop them in > > another. Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press > > CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you > can > > switch to the PC Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you > > have positioned the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would > > like to move the item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the item > > will be moved to the position of the active cursor. > > > > Say Active Cursor (ALT+DELETE) > > This command says the name of the active cursor and its position in > pixels. > > When working in certain programs (such as word processors, text editors, > and > > e-mail) with the PC Cursor, JAWS may announce the column and row position > > instead. In addition, JAWS announces the percentage of the current > document > > you have moved or read through. > > > > Tip: If JAWS announces the row and column position of the PC Cursor, and > you > > want to hear the position in pixels instead, press NUM PAD MINUS to switch > > to the JAWS Cursor, then press INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS to route the JAWS > Cursor > > to the PC Cursor. Press ALT+DELETE again to hear the position in pixels. > > > > Say Cursor Type (CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+C) > > This command announces the shape of the current mouse cursor. > > > > > > > > Back > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "albertbrown" <albertbrown@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:15 PM > > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor > > > > > > Hello Tony, > > here is a piece I copied from the jaws help manual concerning the jaws and > > pc cursors. > > I hope this is what you are looking for. > > Bert > > > > About JAWS Cursors > > > > > > > > About JAWS Cursors > > > > > > > > Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These > > cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked > > with Windows > > > > cursors. > > > > > > > > The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes > > > > > > > > This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and > applications. > > This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through > > options > > > > in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type information, > > the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you are making a > > selection > > > > in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the currently selected > > object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are > > using > > > > a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor. > > > > > > > > The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer > > > > > > > > The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other > > applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, > such > > as > > > > toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it > is > > moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application > window > > > > that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS Cursor, > > press NUM PAD MINUS. > > > > > > > > The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment > > > > > > > > The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is > > activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor > > speaks the > > > > number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the frame. You > > can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by alt tags in > > the > > > > HTML code. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:56 PM > > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > That would be very much appreciated not only by myself but by others > also > > > I'm sure! > > > > > > Tony. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Traynor" <paul.traynor@xxxxxxx> > > > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:25 AM > > > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor > > > > > > > > >> Hi Tony, > > >> > > >> Thats a good idea, I will try and pull something together on it soon. > > >> > > >> Paul. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney > > >> Sent: 16 April 2008 00:17 > > >> To: students list > > >> Subject: [vip_students] Using The Jaws Cursor > > >> > > >> Hi Paul, > > >> > > >> Welcome back! > > >> > > >> Trust that another couple of weeks honeymoon would have been in order!! > > >> > > >> No, not getting at you! > > >> > > >> Now trust I haven't missed this, but I wonder if you would so kindly at > > > your > > >> leisure do a mini-tutorial on the effective use of the mouse cursor and > > > it's > > >> benefits! > > >> > > >> Also I wonder about the "PC to to Jaws, & Jaws to PC? > > >> > > >> which is of course too a great benefit! > > >> > > >> Happy nuptials to you & your good wife! > > >> > > >> All the best, > > >> > > >> Tony. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > > >> Checked by AVG. > > >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: > > > 15/04/2008 > > >> 18:10 > > >> > > >> > > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > > >> Checked by AVG. > > >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: > > > 15/04/2008 > > >> 18:10 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ******************************************************************** > > >> > > >> NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments > > >> is confidential and may be privileged. 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