[vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor

  • From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:51:15 +0100

Hi Flor,

That certainly brought  some more clarification to the subject!

In the meantime I went to Jaws help, which certainly for most of us when in
Jaws press alt & h, arrow down and
enter on your desired topic, reading it by pressing F6!

There is an amount of information there which I didn't have the time to go
through but it looks good!

My wife and I are off to Jersey early in the morning for our wedding
anniversary so don't think it rude of me that I do not respond immediately
to any follow up emails or tutorials on the Jaws cursor!

Tony.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:27 PM
Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor


> Hi Tony,
>
> To make the JAWS cursor follow the PC cursor, hit ctrl+insert+numpad [or
> numpad minus] - ctrl + route JAWS to PC - which is a toggle between "JAWS
> cursor will follow/will not follow the PC cursor".  If JAWS says, upon
that
> key combo, "JAWS cursor will follow the PC cursor" you are 'good to go',
so
> you should then get your result as you desired.  .
>
> Now, before Paul gets to work, in the interim, here are a few prelim notes
> on mouse-clicks.
>
> -- Singl-left-click is similar to making a selection; sometimes used to
make
> checkmarks;
> single right-click is much the same as accessing the _Context menu_ -
> whatever is defined as the 'context menu' at the point of reference - also
> shift+F10 on the keyboard.
> Double left-click is much the same as hitting the ENTER key, or spacebar
(to
> ok a dialogue.)
>
> [Correspondences between the physical mouse and JAWS mouse emulation aare
> approximate, not always exact]
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:11 PM
> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor
>
>
> Hi Flor,  Thank you for sending that!
>
> Now what I would like would be an easy to understand tutorial on the
subject
> say for example explaining certain terms such as, active cursor,  or,
> invisible cursor,  along with say a simple explanation of the mouse keys
> such as,  right click, left click, and double clicking!!
>
> It is probably simple enough for some of us but for those new to
> screenreaders and who may never have used the mouse before it may not
> initially be all that simple!
>
> I am still wondering that when I route Jaws to PC I am not where I was
> before, say if I was checking the spelling of say a name in the, from,
> field of an email, I can't do that but when I route Jaws to PC it loses
> focus of where I was with that email, although I do finally find the email
> and the the name in the, from, field and get the spelling that way!
> eventually!!
>
> I have for example Mcafee installed and to do a scan I have to route Jaws
to
> PC and then press the left mouse button and it then scans for me!
>
> The advantages of for example routing jaws to PC would be good to learn!
>
> There are a number of advantages  in changing focus at times , which would
> be good to have explained more!
>
> Looking forward to more on this subject, and Paul's mentioned tutorial too
> when he gets the chance to so do!
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Perhaps now we should all await Paul's tutorial on the subject which
should
> be another cracker!!
>
> Tony.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:42 AM
> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor
>
>
> > Hi Tony,
> >
> > You would not often have to route PC to JAWS - or at least, I hope not
so
> > often - but if you need to access say the Next button and it was not
> > otherwise accessible, you would do this.  (Some situations in Microsoft
> > Access may warrant this usage.)
> > And here's a yet more detailed piece from the JAWS Help system, that
> > wonderful fount of knowledge!  Remember, anybody:  You can use the
Search
> > facility provided by JAWS within JAWS hel Topics.  [If you press
ctrl+tab,
> > you will come to an Index editfield; press it again, and you will come
to
> a
> > search editfield.  Here, type in your search term - no need for quotes,
> just
> > the word(s) you want to look up.
> >
> > Additional Notes on JAWS Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
> > PC Cursor (NUM PAD PLUS)
> > This command changes the active cursor to the PC cursor.
> > JAWS Cursor (NUM PAD MINUS)
> > This command changes the active cursor to the JAWS cursor.
> >
> > Invisible Cursor (NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly)
> > This command changes the active cursor to the Invisible cursor.
> >
> > Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor (INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS)
> > This command moves the PC Cursor to the location of the JAWS Cursor.
This
> > command has no effect if the JAWS Cursor is in a part of the application
> > that will not support the PC Cursor.
> >
> > Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor (INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS)
> > This command moves the JAWS Cursor to the location of the PC Cursor. If
> the
> > Invisible Cursor is active when this keystroke is used, the Invisible
> Cursor
> > is moved to the location of the PC Cursor.
> >
> > Tether JAWS to PC (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS)
> > This command causes the JAWS Cursor to follow the PC Cursor as it moves
> > around the screen. Press the command twice quickly to save this setting
> > across sessions.
> >
> > Restrict JAWS Cursor (INSERT+R)
> > This command toggles restriction levels for the JAWS and Invisible
> cursors.
> > There are four levels of restriction. Application Window Restriction
> > restricts the JAWS or Invisible cursors to the current application
window.
> > Current Window Restriction restricts the JAWS or Invisible cursors to
the
> > current window. This is very useful in a text box or a window with
> multiple
> > panes displaying information. Frame restriction restricts the JAWS or
> > Invisible Cursors to the current frame. Unrestricted removes all
> > restrictions on movement of the JAWS or Invisible cursors within the
> display
> > area.
> >
> > Left Mouse Button (NUM PAD SLASH)
> > This command simulates a single left mouse button click. Press the
command
> > twice quickly to simulate a left mouse button double click.
> >
> > Right Mouse Button (NUM PAD STAR)
> > This command simulates a single right mouse button click. Press the
> command
> > twice quickly to simulate a right mouse button double click.
> >
> > Left Mouse Button Lock (INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH)
> > This command simulates pressing down the left mouse button and holding
it.
> > Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the arrow keys. JAWS
will
> > not speak until INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH is pressed again to unlock the left
> > mouse button. This command can be used to drag items from one location
and
> > drop them in another.
> >
> > Right Mouse Button Lock (INSERT+NUM PAD STAR)
> > This command simulates pressing down the right mouse button and holding
> it.
> > Once pressed, the JAWS cursor can be moved with the arrow keys. JAWS
will
> > not speak until INSERT+NUM PAD STAR is pressed again to unlock the right
> > mouse button. This command can be used to drag items from one location
and
> > drop them in another. When the command is pressed a second time to
unlock
> > the right mouse button, a menu may appear with options such as Copy
Here,
> > Move Here, and Create Shortcut Here.
> >
> > Drag and Drop (CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH)
> > This command is used to drag items from one location and drop them in
> > another. Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press
> > CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH. You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you
> can
> > switch to the PC Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once
you
> > have positioned the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would
> > like to move the item, press CTRL+INSERT+NUM PAD SLASH again, and the
item
> > will be moved to the position of the active cursor.
> >
> > Say Active Cursor (ALT+DELETE)
> > This command says the name of the active cursor and its position in
> pixels.
> > When working in certain programs (such as word processors, text editors,
> and
> > e-mail) with the PC Cursor, JAWS may announce the column and row
position
> > instead. In addition, JAWS announces the percentage of the current
> document
> > you have moved or read through.
> >
> > Tip: If JAWS announces the row and column position of the PC Cursor, and
> you
> > want to hear the position in pixels instead, press NUM PAD MINUS to
switch
> > to the JAWS Cursor, then press INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS to route the JAWS
> Cursor
> > to the PC Cursor. Press ALT+DELETE again to hear the position in pixels.
> >
> > Say Cursor Type (CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+C)
> > This command announces the shape of the current mouse cursor.
> >
> >
> >
> >       Back
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "albertbrown" <albertbrown@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:15 PM
> > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor
> >
> >
> > Hello Tony,
> > here is a piece I copied from the jaws help manual concerning the jaws
and
> > pc cursors.
> > I hope this is what you are looking for.
> > Bert
> >
> > About JAWS Cursors
> >
> >
> >
> > About JAWS Cursors
> >
> >
> >
> > Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
> > cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
> > with Windows
> >
> > cursors.
> >
> >
> >
> > The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
> >
> >
> >
> > This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
> applications.
> > This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
> > options
> >
> > in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
information,
> > the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you are making a
> > selection
> >
> > in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the currently selected
> > object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you
are
> > using
> >
> > a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.
> >
> >
> >
> > The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
> >
> >
> >
> > The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and
other
> > applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
> such
> > as
> >
> > toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
it
> is
> > moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
> window
> >
> > that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS Cursor,
> > press NUM PAD MINUS.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
> >
> >
> >
> > The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
> > activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC
Cursor
> > speaks the
> >
> > number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the frame.
You
> > can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by alt tags
in
> > the
> >
> > HTML code.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:56 PM
> > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor
> >
> >
> > > Hi Paul,
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > That would be very much appreciated not only by myself but by others
> also
> > > I'm sure!
> > >
> > > Tony.
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Paul Traynor" <paul.traynor@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:25 AM
> > > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Using The Jaws Cursor
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Tony,
> > >>
> > >> Thats a good idea, I will try and pull something together on it soon.
> > >>
> > >> Paul.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney
> > >> Sent: 16 April 2008 00:17
> > >> To: students list
> > >> Subject: [vip_students] Using The Jaws Cursor
> > >>
> > >> Hi Paul,
> > >>
> > >> Welcome back!
> > >>
> > >> Trust that another couple of weeks honeymoon would have been in
order!!
> > >>
> > >> No, not getting at you!
> > >>
> > >> Now trust I haven't missed this, but I wonder if you would so kindly
at
> > > your
> > >> leisure do a mini-tutorial on the effective use of the mouse cursor
and
> > > it's
> > >> benefits!
> > >>
> > >> Also I wonder about the "PC to to Jaws, & Jaws to PC?
> > >>
> > >> which is  of course too a great benefit!
> > >>
> > >> Happy nuptials to you & your good wife!
> > >>
> > >> All the best,
> > >>
> > >> Tony.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> > >> Checked by AVG.
> > >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date:
> > > 15/04/2008
> > >> 18:10
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > >> Checked by AVG.
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> > > 15/04/2008
> > >> 18:10
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