I don't think there is a specific shortcut key for the ruler. However, you could take a look through Tools, Options, IN THE View tab, and uncheck what you want to be seen (by you or JAWS). Also, JAWS MS Word commands - you can get them with Insert+F1, Insert+h, or Insert+w (for general Word commands). ----- Original Message ----- From: "vts" <vts@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: [vip_students] rulers he guys does anyone know of a short cut key that will read out the position of text on the ruler in a word document. I need this for using tabs. many thanks. regards Vincent