Oops. I should have written '*check* what you want to be seen ... by JAWS.' (I was sort of checking the horses!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: rulers I don't think there is a specific shortcut key for the ruler. However, you could take a look through Tools, Options, IN THE View tab, and uncheck what you want to be seen (by you or JAWS). Also, JAWS MS Word commands - you can get them with Insert+F1, Insert+h, or Insert+w (for general Word commands). ----- Original Message ----- >From: "vts" <vts@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: [vip_students] rulers he guys does anyone know of a short cut key that will read out the position of text on the ruler in a word document. I need this for using tabs. many thanks. regards Vincent