Martin, There is a related IHV issue: Until now, the KMixer(and it's other cousins from Microsoft) have been the only KS clients that the drivers have had to deal with - except for a few programs like Cakewalk Sonar. KMixer/SysAudio/DSound use the drivers in a very specific manner. When this white paper comes out, many more people will be using the KSAPI, inmany more ways! Also, I'm not sure if the current WHQL/HCTs tests the drivers using KSAPI calls? Thanks. Devendra. At 08:14 AM 10/30/2002, Martin Puryear wrote: There are two different items here. It is unclear about which you are = asking, Richard. * 1394 audio driver update - JackU is your contact; we are still = discussing the delivery timeframe/vehicle. Certainly we are hoping for = as soon as possible, but Jack can talk to that. =20 * KSUSER white paper - this is now with our doc writer, probably another = week or so. Other higher priority items have been taken care of; this = now is one of our very highest priorities. =20 N.B.: this paper contains some simple sample code to use what is already = in the public SDKs and DDKs, and it is targeted at audio **ISVs**, = specifically creators of high-performance (low-latency, bit-for-bit) = audio applications. =20 I've heard a lot of hue and cry from **IHVs** about this. We do not = believe that IHVs should be anticipating changes to their WDM driver as = a result of this white paper. If people do not believe this is the = case, I'd be interested in the reasoning (I can think of a few). Thanks for your interest in this, Martin Puryear Development Manager Windows Audio/Video Platform This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no = rights. Ce message est fourni en l'=E9tat, sans garantie d'aucune sorte, et ne = vous conf=E8re aucun droit. Vous assumez tous les risques li=E9s =E0 son = utilisation. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Byrne [mailto:rbyrne@xxxxxxxxxx]=20[1] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:45 AM To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: Driver - White Paper Is there a hoped for date? This year, 6 months... ??? Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[2]] On Behalf Of Jack Unverferth Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:40 PM To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: Driver - White Paper We are working towards an update to the 1394 audio driver, however we = haven't yet set a release vehicle or date.=3D20 The features that you mention have been mentioned before and are of high = interest to us. The capture issue is relatively straight forward. The = multi-channel streaming is a different matter, in our opinion, as it = isn't particularly well defined in the 1394TA specifications.=3D20 We are planning a design guide of sorts to be released with or soon = after the updated driver, describing what has changed and how to = successfully operate with the class driver. Feel free to contact me = (email address below) separately if you have further questions.=3D20 Regards, Jack Unverferth (jacku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Program Manager Audio/Video Devices Group This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no = rights. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Byrne [mailto:rbyrne@xxxxxxxxxx]=3D20[3] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 6:37 AM To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Driver - White Paper There has been talk about a new driver that would include capture and = multi-channel streaming for 1394, does anyone have any information? 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