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On Apr 7, 2020, at 12:47 AM, Adrian <ado58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi ted,
That sounds like a good idea.
I will also try that.
For some reason I cannot pan anything either with the native pan function or
panning ramp.
I am about to reinstall audacity hoping it is some stupid thing I did while
playing around.
Thanks again.
Adrian
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
A trick I’ve learned out of necessity is once a mono track is recorded,
duplicate it. Pan each of them left and right then mix them. My audio
interface or the laptop was not recording unless Audacity was set to mono.
This was my work-around.
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Steve the Fiddle
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:52 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
If you are recording instruments with a single mic, then there is really no
benefit in recording as stereo unless you intend to add stereo effects to
individual instruments. Note that even with mono tracks, you can pan the
tracks left / right in the mix.
When recording a typical 3, 4, 5 piece band, I usually record instruments and
lead vocals in mono. For drum kit, I generally record kick and snare in mono,
and use a stereo pair to record the kit as a whole (which picks up the toms
and cymbals). If there are backing vocals, I may record them with a stereo
pair. This is just a "typical" setup, which may be varied according to need.
Steve
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 11:24, Adrian <ado58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks again Andrew.
Yeah, have a dark chocolate easter egg which goes well with port.
Thanks again .
Adrian
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Downie
Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2020 7:30 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
Hi Adrian
Re mono or stereo tracks, from my very musically incompetent perspective it
probably depends on the instrument to some extent. I would be tempted to
leave most at stereo. You can always make it mono later if the need arises.
I guess you save some disk space with mono, if that is an issue.
Must be getting on time for another of those ports 😊.
Andrew
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Adrian
Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2020 9:44 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
Hi Marlon,
Thank you so much for this.
I cannot believe how helpful everyone is.
I am starting a new project today so I will try everything from scratch.
Do you recommend using mono or stereo tracks to record individual instruments?
Thanks you again.
Adrian
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão de ;
Sousa
Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2020 9:00 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Adrian
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
Sorry, where you encounter c key please consider x key.
On 04/04/2020 19:16, Marlon Brandão de Sousa wrote:
Here is what I can say:
1- Remember always that audacity is multi track. This is obvious but my
experience says that it is as easier to forget as it is to remember.
2- Because it is multi track, tracks can be selected or not. The track
selection has nothing to do with time range selections, these are two
different things.
3- Selected tracks are affected by whatever you want to do. Applying effects,
cutting, stuff that affect sounds will affect only selected tracks.
4- If more tan one track is selected, more than one track will be affected by
operations.
5- The time range is absolute, it does not depend on tracks. It starts in 0
and go until the end of the very last track to finish.
6- To start a selection, use the [ key. If sound is playing, this marks the
time range where the selection begins. Similarly, use the ] key to determine
the end of the selection, in terms of time range.
6.1- When you are playing a sound, the time range advances accordingly with
what you are listening. This is why when you press [ to mark the start of the
selection and ] to mark the end of the selection these markers are fixed on
the time range corresponding to the exact moments you pressed that keys and
audio keeps playing.
7- The selection goes from start time to end time and all selected tracks
that have content within the selection range will be affected by whatever
operation is done to that selection. Tracks that have content within the time
range but that are not selected are not affected. Tracks that either finished
before the start mark or start after the end mark are not affected,
regardless of its selection state.
8- As you probably guess as of now, tracks can begin and end at positions
different than 0 and the last time range. They can start at any moment in the
time range. The full time range goes from 0 to the end of the last track, the
one that finishes the last.
9- The cursor runs through the absolute time range. There are commands to put
it at 0 (home), at the end of the last track in terms of time range (end), to
the begin of a given track (j), at the end of a given track (k) and at a
given moment you happen to be listening to (c)
10 Take care with j and k keys. These will put the cursor at the beginning
and the end of a given track, but if there are more than one selected track,
they will put you at the beginning of the track that, among the selected
tracks, begins first in the absolute time range. Similarly, the k key will
put the cursor at the end of the track that finishes last among the selected
tracks.
11- There are effects and other stuff in audacity that use the cursor
position. You have to learn what are these and you have to learn when a
cursor positioned somewhere is or is not important. The command shift + r for
example will start recording a new track from the cursor position on, which
is the start of the new track will be the absolute time range where the
cursor is positioned. The c command is your best friend to place the cursor
exactly where you are listening at a given moment.
12- The play operation does not advance the cursor through the time range
while it is playing. This is why when you hit stop and play again it will
start playing always from the same place. Neither does the record operation.
13- When you place a start selection (time range selection) marker, then the
cursor is brought to that time range.
14- My experience says that for us, blind people, it is not easy to have an
overview of what tracks are and are not selected. This, by my experience, is
what usually trips us more. If you forget to let only one track selected when
you cut, delete or apply effects, very strange things will start happening.
Specially on cut stuff, more than one piece of audio (not just that one you
wanted) will be removed and pasted elsewhere, which will let the project a
mess.
15- There is a command called unsellect all. It was once bound to ctrl +
shift + a, but it seems that it is no more. I have found that this command is
extremely valuable because it will make sure that no time range is selected
and that all tracks are also not selected. So I always perform an unsellect
all when I will edit something and then start selecting tracks and time
ranges where I will make operations. This has helped me a lot and since I
started to use it my mysterious errors have dramatically disappeared.
Hope that helps!
Marlon
On 04/04/2020 07:57, Adrian wrote:
Hi again.
Yes, it’s the pest.
Can you please suggest the best way of selecting a portion of the track I
want to edit.
I have tried the options in the Select/Region submenu but I never seem to get
it right.
Many thanks.
Adrian
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Downie
Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 8:06 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
Hi again Adrian
Thanks Robert for refining my process. But before following my drawn out
process, here is another option which I should have thought of at the time.
There is a wonderful plugin for Audacity called Panramp. It allows a
selection to be panned and that can be moving from – say – left to right or
being set in one position. By using Panramp, everything can be done on one
track.
Here is a download link for panramp.ny. Put in into your C:\Users\[Adrian?]
\AppData\Roaming\audacity\Plug-Ins folder. Before you can use it, select
add/remove plugins in the Effects Menu and press p until you find it.
Shift-tab until you find the Enable button and select it.
That plugin has made a huge difference for my use of Audacity and should be
very useful for music creation.
Andrew
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Adrian
Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 4:40 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Editting
Hi,
I recorded a guitar solo on a track & now I want to use panning on parts of
it.
For example, I want the intro on the left & the verse on the right & then the
chorus in the centre.
I think I have to do some cutting & pasting from the main track to a new
track but I have spent the best part of a week trying everything but I’m
struggling.
When I have managed to select the right part & cut & paste, nothing is where
it should be.
I checked youtube but most of it is visual & that isn’t good for me..
Any help is appreciated.
Adrian
