[audacity4blind] Re: Editting

  • From: Marlon Brandão de Sousa <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Adrian <ado58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 19:16:40 -0300

Here is what I can say:


1- Remember always that audacity is multi track. This is obvious but my experience says that it is as easier to forget as it is to remember.

2- Because it is multi track, tracks can be selected or not. The track selection has nothing to do with time range selections, these are two different things.

3- Selected tracks are affected by whatever you want to do. Applying effects, cutting, stuff that affect sounds will affect only selected tracks.

4- If more tan one track is selected, more than one track will be affected by operations.

5- The time range is absolute, it does not depend on tracks. It starts in 0 and go until the end of the very last track to finish.

6- To start a selection, use the [ key. If sound is playing, this marks the time range where the selection begins. Similarly, use the ] key to determine the end of the selection, in terms of time range.

6.1- When you are playing a sound, the time range advances accordingly with what you are listening. This is why when you press [ to mark the start of the selection and ] to mark the end of the selection these markers are fixed on the time range corresponding to the exact moments you pressed that keys and audio keeps playing.

7- The selection goes from start time to end time and all selected tracks that have content within the selection range  will be affected by whatever operation is done to that selection. Tracks that have content within the time range but that are not selected are not affected. Tracks that either finished before the start mark or start after the end mark are not affected, regardless of its selection state.

8- As you probably guess as of now, tracks can begin and end at positions different than 0 and the last time range. They can start at any moment in the time range. The full time range goes from 0 to the end of the last track, the one that finishes the last.

9- The cursor runs through the absolute time range. There are commands to put it at 0 (home), at the end of the last track in terms of time range (end), to the begin of a given track (j), at the end of a given track (k) and at a given moment you happen to be listening to (c)

10 Take care with j and k keys. These will put the cursor at the beginning and the end of a given track, but if there are more than one selected track, they will put you at the beginning of the track that, among the selected tracks, begins first in the absolute time range. Similarly, the k key will put the cursor at the end of the track that finishes last among the selected tracks.

11- There are effects and other stuff in audacity that use the cursor position. You have to learn what are these and you have to learn when a cursor positioned somewhere is or is not important. The command shift + r for example will start recording a new track from the cursor position on, which is the start of the new track will be the absolute time range where the cursor is positioned. The c command is your best friend to place the cursor exactly where you are listening at a given moment.

12- The play operation does not advance the cursor through the time range while it is playing. This is why when you hit stop and play again it will start playing always from the same place. Neither does the record operation.

13- When you place a start selection (time range selection) marker, then the cursor is brought to that time range.

14- My experience says that for us, blind people, it is not easy to have an overview of what tracks are and are not selected. This, by my experience, is what usually trips us more. If you forget to let only one track selected when you cut, delete or apply effects, very strange things will start happening. Specially on cut stuff, more than one piece of audio (not just that one you wanted) will be removed and pasted elsewhere, which will let the project a mess.

15- There is a command called unsellect all. It was once bound to ctrl + shift + a, but it seems that it is no more. I have found that this command is extremely valuable because it will make sure that no time range is selected and that all tracks are also not selected. So I always perform an unsellect all when I will edit something and then start selecting tracks and time ranges where I will make operations. This has helped me a lot and since I started to use it my mysterious errors have dramatically disappeared.


Hope that helps!

Marlon



On 04/04/2020 07:57, Adrian wrote:


Hi again.

Yes, it’s the pest.

Can you please suggest the best way of selecting a portion of the track I want to edit.

I have tried the options in the Select/Region submenu but I never seem to get it right.

Many thanks.

Adrian

*From:*audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Downie
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 April 2020 8:06 PM
*To:* audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [audacity4blind] Re: Editting

Hi again Adrian

Thanks Robert for refining my process.  But before following my drawn out process, here is another option which I should have thought of at the time.  There is a wonderful plugin for Audacity called Panramp.  It allows a selection to be panned and that can be moving from – say – left to right or being set in one position.  By using Panramp, everything can be done on one track.

Here is a download link <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/idvk27> for panramp.ny. Put in into your C:\Users\[Adrian?] \AppData\Roaming\audacity\Plug-Ins folder.  Before you can use it, select add/remove plugins in the Effects Menu and press p until you find it.  Shift-tab until you find the Enable button and select it.

That plugin has made a huge difference for my use of Audacity and should be very useful for music creation.

Andrew

*From:*audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> *On Behalf Of *Adrian
*Sent:* Saturday, 4 April 2020 4:40 PM
*To:* audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [audacity4blind] Editting

Hi,

I recorded a guitar solo on a track & now I want to use panning on parts of it.

For example, I want the intro on the left & the verse on the right & then the chorus in the centre.

I think I have to do some cutting & pasting from the main track to a new track but I have spent the best part of a week trying everything but I’m struggling.

When I have managed to select the right part & cut & paste, nothing is where it should be.

I checked youtube but most of it is visual &  that isn’t good for me..

Any help is appreciated.

Adrian

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