[audacity4blind] Re: Inserting Audio within an Existing Track

  • From: David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:09:40 +0000 (UTC)

Hi Rich,
there's a potential problem with using the select left boundary dialog to move 
the cursor. If you move the cursor to an earlier time using this method, then a 
time range gets selected going from the earlier time to the original position 
of the cursor. The dialog is useful for reading the position of the cursor, and 
reading and adjusting the start of a selected time range. But not for moving 
the cursor.
To move the cursor using a time control, use selection start on the selection 
bar:
1. If you think that a time range may be selected, press home to move the 
cursor to time zero.
2. press ctrl+f6 to move to the selection bar.
3. If necessary tab to the end/length radio buttons, and make sure that the 
length radio button is selected.
4. tab to to the selection start control, and set a time. Whilst the control is 
the focus you can use spacebar to playback to hear where you are - you don't 
have to move back to the tracks to do this.
5. Once you've moved the cursor to where you want it, you'll probably want to 
move back to the tracks. Press ctrl+f6 twice or ctrl+shift+f6 once to do this.

If this still isn't the problem, you'll have to give a detailed description of 
all the step that you take.

David.



On Wednesday, 12 November 2014, 17:28, Rich De Steno <ironrock@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
Hi David, I almost never use control-a, but in order to get to a 
specific point in a long file for the insertion I am referring to, I 
press the left bracket to bring up the time spin boxes, specify the 
minutes and seconds, tab over to OK, and find my exact entry point from 
there.  Could this be a problem when I then paste in the file to be 
inserted?  If I press the home key to deselect any audio as you suggest, 
I still need to find my entry point without listening to or 
right-arrowing through the entire long file.

Rich De Steno


On 11/12/2014 9:58 AM, David Bailes wrote:
> Hi Rich,
> one possibility for the behaviour which you describe, is that before using 
> the left bracket, you've pressed ctrl+a to select everything. Pressing ctrl+a 
> selected all the tracks and selects a time range which covers all the audio. 
> If you press left bracket during playback when there's a time range already 
> selected, this changes the position of the start of the time range, and 
> leaves the end of the time range unchanged.
> If this has been the problem, then either:
> 1. after pressing ctrl+a, press home to deslect any time range and move the 
> cursor to time zero.
> 2. Instead of use ctrl+a, either use enter to toggle the selectedness of 
> tracks, or press ctrl+shift+k to select all tracks (without affecting whether 
> a time range is selected).
>
> If this wasn't the problem, could you give a detailed list of actions that 
> you're doing?
>
> David.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 12 November 2014, 13:32, Rich De Steno <ironrock@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> I know this subject has come up before on this list, but I still cannot
> get it right.  When I want to insert a piece of audio or a track within
> an existing track, I place a left square bracket at the entry point in
> the existing track and press control-v for pasting. However, this always
> overwrites the prior audio after the left bracket, rather than pushing
> it back.  I get around this by braking up the sections into separate
> tracks and using the connect tracks option in the tracks menu, but that
> involves more work.  How do you paste audio within an existing track
> without overwriting?
>


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