[audacity4blind] Re: Inserting Audio within an Existing Track
- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:25:04 -0600
It may be that in a long file, manually setting the time may be a good idea. I
never fool around with that method. Are you aware that just right arrow moves
you slowly through a file, and that shift right arrow moves you quickly through
a file? Right arrow and shift right arrow need to be used while the file is
playing to move as I described. If you move when the file isn't playing, you
are moving the cursor. And of course, left and shift left arrow move you to
the left while the file is playing. To move quickly in either direction, hold
shift and right or left arrow. To move slowly, just use the arrow keys. Move
to a point slightly before where you want to set the left marker. While the
file is playing, press left bracket where you want it set. The setting doesn't
occur instantly, there is a fraction of a second delay. Set the right time
marker in the same way. Frankly, Audacity does not set the time as accurately
as it should when using these methods. There should not be fractional delays.
I don't think there is a way to hear conveniently where the right time marker
is set. Also, moving the markers incrementally is not possible, as far as I
know. Audacity should have a way of setting markers and hearing where they are
set that works as Mp3 Direct Cut works. There are commands in Mp3 Direct Cut
to hear where both markers are. there are commands to move the markers by tiny
increments back and forward. So you can move a marker by a tiny increment and
then hear exactly where it is by issuing the play from the marker command.
There is a command to play a few seconds from the left marker and from the
right marker.
I have not made an in depth study of Audacity. I know the basics and a little
beyond so there may be things I don't know and the feature I am saying should
be there may be there and I may not know it. But I doubt it. I don't recall
ever seeing such a feature discussed as being in the program and I think I
would have by now if it were available.
Gene
Hi David, I almost never use control-a, but in order to get to a
specific point in a long file for the insertion I am referring to, I
press the left bracket to bring up the time spin boxes, specify the
minutes and seconds, tab over to OK, and find my exact entry point from
there. Could this be a problem when I then paste in the file to be
inserted? If I press the home key to deselect any audio as you suggest,
I still need to find my entry point without listening to or
right-arrowing through the entire long file.
Rich De Steno
On 11/12/2014 9:58 AM, David Bailes wrote:
> Hi Rich,
> one possibility for the behaviour which you describe, is that before using
> the left bracket, you've pressed ctrl+a to select everything. Pressing ctrl+a
> selected all the tracks and selects a time range which covers all the audio.
> If you press left bracket during playback when there's a time range already
> selected, this changes the position of the start of the time range, and
> leaves the end of the time range unchanged.
> If this has been the problem, then either:
> 1. after pressing ctrl+a, press home to deslect any time range and move the
> cursor to time zero.
> 2. Instead of use ctrl+a, either use enter to toggle the selectedness of
> tracks, or press ctrl+shift+k to select all tracks (without affecting whether
> a time range is selected).
>
> If this wasn't the problem, could you give a detailed list of actions that
> you're doing?
>
> David.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 12 November 2014, 13:32, Rich De Steno <ironrock@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> I know this subject has come up before on this list, but I still cannot
> get it right. When I want to insert a piece of audio or a track within
> an existing track, I place a left square bracket at the entry point in
> the existing track and press control-v for pasting. However, this always
> overwrites the prior audio after the left bracket, rather than pushing
> it back. I get around this by braking up the sections into separate
> tracks and using the connect tracks option in the tracks menu, but that
> involves more work. How do you paste audio within an existing track
> without overwriting?
>
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