What is RTM? G.Cindy --- Allison Hilliker <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I don't happen to have RTM parents. Mostly because > they aren't the type to > read manuals themselves. I probably do it more than > they do. An > interesting story is when my mom was trying to set > up her Gmail account on > Outlook Express. I tried talking her through it, > but it wasn't working. So > I went to Gmail's website, found the OE instructions > and printed them out > for her. I told her to follow them and ask me > questions as they come up. > She quickly grew frustrated and gave up. So then I > tried my dad, and asked > him to set up OE for my mom and I gave him the same > printed sheet of > directions. He couldn't do it either! And > personally I think they were > some of the most straight-forward directions I've > seen. I asked him some > basics about his perception of the instructions, and > it was clear that he > had no grasp of what he was about to do. That > situation finally ended by me > installing JAWS on my mom's computer and setting up > her OE for her myself. > So, basically, my point is, to some extent, we're > products of our > environment. Monica's dad encouraged her to read > the manual, and she does > that still today. My parents aren't manual people, > and as a result, > neither am I. Although I've learned to be to some > extent. Perhaps Monica's > dad's way is better, but mine is just how it is. > > Monica mentioned that part of her dad's reason > behind making her learn the > computer herself is so that she can use a computer > as well as sighted > people. I've never had any doubts about that. I > always figure I'm about as > good of computer user as I would be sighted. I too > hesitate to ask computer > questions of sighted people. That's not however > because I feel inferior to > them, it's simply because our techniques for > performing similar tasks are > just very different. > > Interesting topic. > > Best, > Allison > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:40 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Google Desktop Broke > my Bookshare Books > > > > Hi, Cindy. You know, in one way, I agree with you. > In another, I > > understand what my dad is doing. He's requiring me > to be as independent > > as possible, to only rely on a sighted person if > it's absolutely > > necessary. He has done that since I was eight > years old and got my first > > computer. They didn't have a functioning > screenreader at that point, and > > he still made me learn to type and write > programming on it. Now over 25 > > years later, I'm able to handle things well on > most computers, even if I > > lose speech for awhile. So for me, with my > personality and my situation, > > I think my dad actually did me a favor. He helps > me without complaint if > > it's something I really can't do. When he tells me > to "RTM," I take it > > as a reminder of his love for me and his faith > that I can work it out if > > I put my mind to it. If I've read the help files > and am still stuck, I > > do get the help I need. > > > > Monica Willyard > > > > > > Grandma Cindy wrote: > >> Thank goodness my husband is not like your dad. > He's > >> willing to help when I run into a problem even > when > >> it's one I've been told before how to deal with > and > >> have forgotten because I didn't write it down. > smile > >> > >> G.Cindy > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject > line. To get a list of available commands, put the > word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is available at http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.