Actually, it's rtfm, <grin>. The first word is Read, the last word is Manual.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:05 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Google Desktop Broke my Bookshare Books
What is RTM? G.Cindy --- Allison Hilliker <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx> wrote:I don't happen to have RTM parents. Mostly because they aren't the type to read manuals themselves. I probably do it more than they do. An interesting story is when my mom was trying to set up her Gmail account on Outlook Express. I tried talking her through it, but it wasn't working. So I went to Gmail's website, found the OE instructions and printed them out for her. I told her to follow them and ask me questions as they come up. She quickly grew frustrated and gave up. So then I tried my dad, and asked him to set up OE for my mom and I gave him the same printed sheet of directions. He couldn't do it either! And personally I think they were some of the most straight-forward directions I've seen. I asked him some basics about his perception of the instructions, and it was clear that he had no grasp of what he was about to do. That situation finally ended by me installing JAWS on my mom's computer and setting up her OE for her myself. So, basically, my point is, to some extent, we're products of our environment. Monica's dad encouraged her to read the manual, and she does that still today. My parents aren't manual people, and as a result, neither am I. Although I've learned to be to some extent. Perhaps Monica's dad's way is better, but mine is just how it is. Monica mentioned that part of her dad's reason behind making her learn the computer herself is so that she can use a computer as well as sighted people. I've never had any doubts about that. I always figure I'm about as good of computer user as I would be sighted. I too hesitate to ask computer questions of sighted people. That's not however because I feel inferior to them, it's simply because our techniques for performing similar tasks are just very different. Interesting topic. Best, Allison----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Google Desktop Broke my Bookshare Books > Hi, Cindy. You know, in one way, I agree with you. In another, I > understand what my dad is doing. He's requiring me to be as independent > as possible, to only rely on a sighted person if it's absolutely > necessary. He has done that since I was eight years old and got my first > computer. They didn't have a functioning screenreader at that point, and > he still made me learn to type and write programming on it. Now over 25 > years later, I'm able to handle things well on most computers, even if I > lose speech for awhile. So for me, with my personality and my situation, > I think my dad actually did me a favor. He helps me without complaint if > it's something I really can't do. When he tells me to "RTM," I take it > as a reminder of his love for me and his faith that I can work it out if > I put my mind to it. If I've read the help files and am still stuck, I > do get the help I need. > > Monica Willyard > > > Grandma Cindy wrote: >> Thank goodness my husband is not like your dad. He's >> willing to help when I run into a problem even when >> it's one I've been told before how to deal with and >> have forgotten because I didn't write it down. smile >> >> G.Cindy >> >> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is available athttp://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.-- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1239 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 10:24 AM
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