[bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 15:44:36 -0700 (PDT)
I haven't been through the mail so you have probably been answered already--the
answer is yes, you can. Or you can put asterisks or something else on the line
in front of the chapter title.
As to moving page numbers, for a validator who reads as she validates, it's no
big deal. When one gets to the bottom of one page one simply deletes the number
and adds a space, the number, and another space at the top of the next
page--two seconds or less. It takes less than the space of a breath. But that's
just me. smile It's probably easier for a validator than a scanner.
G.Cindy
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--- On Fri, 5/16/08, Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, May 16, 2008, 3:12 AM
> You are probably right Mayrie.
>
> Could I just put the page number of the pages where a story
> begins at the
> top of the page?
>
> Frankly, each of these books have about 400 pages, and I
> refuse to manually
> move numbers from the bottom of the page to the top just to
> satisfy a
> computer program. I can't think of anything more
> tortuous than forcing
> someone to do that: this is probably in the same league
> with water boarding.
> (But I won't discuss whether that's torture or
> not.)
>
> Anyway, I absolutely refuse to do that. Anyone else who
> wants to manually
> move about 1200 numbers from the bottom of the page to the
> top can be my
> guest. I think I'd rather grow a beard.
>
> Now, if I can only put the page number at the top of pages
> on which a story
> begins, I'd be willing to do that, though it would be
> time consuming.
>
> Bob (back to being a curmudgeon.)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:44 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles
>
>
> > Hi Carrie, Bob, and Everyone,
> >
> > Hasn't it been agreed upon long ago that
> simply placing the page
> > number, separated by a blank line, above the chapter
> heading or story
> > title will protect the chapter heading or story title
> and keep it from
> > being stripped? I thought this was the agreed upon
> reliable practice.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Mayrie
> >
> > At 11:02 PM 5/15/2008, you wrote:
> >>Hi Bob,
> >>
> >>I hate to say this, but I checked the first
> Sturgeon book, saw the several
> >>blank lines before each story title, approved the
> book, downloaded the
> >>DAISY version, and the story titles are gone. This
> is just flat wrong.
> >>I'll talk to Engineering about it tomorrow.
> I'll leave the other Sturgeon
> >>books in the approval queue until this gets sorted
> out.
> >>
> >>Sorry! It will get fixed, sooner or later
> (hopefully sooner!) Carrie
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----
> >>From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: bookshare volunteer discussion
> <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:03:07 PM
> >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles
> >>
> >>I just wanted to give you kind folks a follow-up on
> the missing story
> >>titles
> >>in the Theodore Sturgeon collections.
> >>
> >>Originally, I noticed that just about all the
> titles of the stories in one
> >>of these collections was missing. My first thought
> was to blame the
> >>validator for not noticing this obvious error and
> fixing it. It turned out
> >>that Misha was the hapless recipient of my anger,
> and I know that he's a
> >>careful validator and wouldn't let something
> like that go. So then I
> >>thought
> >>of the scannor, which was Carrie. Carrie is also an
> excellent scannor and
> >>wouldn't let something like that get by. I was
> beginning to think of
> >>things
> >>like divine intervention and demon posession.
> >>
> >>I asked Carrie to send me the original document
> which was submitted by the
> >>validator, which she did, and "ah ha!"
> those ppesky titles were in place.
> >>In
> >>fact, they seemed to be grinning up at me as if to
> say... but, I digress.
> >>
> >>It turns out that the infamous stripper was doing
> the dirty to this
> >>collection.
> >>
> >>A short check of the bookshare collection shows
> that there are three other
> >>collections of Mr. Sturgeon's stories missing
> story titles in the
> >>bookshare
> >>collection.
> >>
> >>I have just uploaded those three books with, I
> hope, story titles in tact.
> >>It turns out that
> >>the solution is quite simple: I simply put a
> paragraph mark before and
> >>after
> >>all page breaks, and that damned stripper is fooled
> into leaving my titles
> >>alone.
> >>
> >>Just wanted to give a follow-up to this pesky
> problem.
> >>
> >>Bob
> >>
> >>"Strippers belong in bars, not
> libraries."--Author unknown.
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Curtis Delzer"
> <<mailto:curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To:
> <<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:34 AM
> >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles
> >>
> >>
> >> > hmm, makes me wonder if the
> "stripper," should be used at all? Aren't
> >> > we
> >> > sophisticated enough by this time to handle
> the vagaries of what is
> >> > needed?
> >> > Or, maybe not?
> >> >
> >> > Curtis Delzer
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Devorah Greenstein"
> >>
> <<mailto:DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
> >> > To:
> <<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:31 AM
> >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story
> titles
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ouch ouch. Like Bob, I am more confused now.
> Plus I don't have the
> >> > benefit of ever experiencing what these books
> are like after I validate
> >> > them because I'm sighted. So it's
> like dropping many hours of work into
> >> > a black hole and hoping for the best. And I,
> like many of you guys, am
> >> > a
> >> > perfectionist. So I go over every word, check
> spellings in weird
> >> > foreign
> >> > names, check everything, make it as perfect
> as I can, and upload it.
> >> >
> >> > But then what is happening to my work?
> >> >
> >> > I always do the wonderful ^p^m^p thing so
> that there are blank lines on
> >> > either side of the page breaks. But I have
> NOT been re-typing each page
> >> > number on the top of a page if the page
> numbers are at the bottom.
> >> >
> >> > I have left page numbers at the bottom of the
> page. Am I now correct in
> >> > my understanding that they all get wiped out?
> Even if there is a blank
> >> > line between the page number and the
> following page break?
> >> >
> >> > I do put a page number on the top of the
> first page of a chapter. It
> >> > just makes sense to do that. But is it
> mandatory put all other page
> >> > numbers at the top of each page?
> >> >
> >> > If the mysterious stripper is so smart
> can't it tell numeric characters
> >> > from alphabetic characters and leave numeric
> page numbers at the bottom
> >> > of the page?
> >> >
> >> > Devorah
> >> >
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