[bksvol-discuss] Re: Where are those contrarians?

  • From: "Kenneth A. Cross" <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:44:33 -0400

Let's try this again.  I searched for the number 2 as part of a search not
involving whole-word.  Between pages twenty and thirty, after setting the
pages so that page 1 is indeed page 1, I found that there was one 2 in the
entire ten pages.  You are right that the chapters do coincide with the
contents, but most of the pages are not numbered.  Now I can check using the
contents, but if I want to talk to anybody about material in a given story,
I can only hope that the numbering is  right. Am I missing something?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Pardees" <fpardee@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Where are those contrarians?


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> Kenneth,
> I have just redownloaded Thieves Dozen with Kurzweil and you are  right
> that the page numbers are not correct, however, if  you set the operator
> page numbers to skip the preliminary pages and set page 1 at the actual
> beginning of the book they are then correct and the table of
> contents  matches, so I do not believe there any missing page breaks.
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> I have no idea how the Braille version would turn out.
> I agree that the stripper could be modified in some way to retain the
> actual page numbers, but I believe the elimination of the stripper would
> result in even more confusion.
>
> Jim
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> At 08:00 AM 7/24/05, you wrote:
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> >I just downloaded Thieves Dozen.  There are a few page numbers, but only
a
> >few in the copy I found.  I looked only quickly, but even some of the
> >chapters don't begin on the pages mentioned in the contents.  I did not
> >download the brf version, but I am going to do that now.  I expect what
will
> >be mostly missing are the actual page breaks.  But that, for the moment,
is
> >speculation.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "The Pardees" <fpardee@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:35 PM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Where are those contrarians?
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> > > Hi Kellie,
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> > > All I can comment on is my experience with my submissions that I have
> >later
> > > downloaded from Bookshare and read . Plus other submissions that I
have
> > > downloaded.  Two examples of the first are Thieves Dozen and
Cheapskate.
> >I
> > > downloaded them in Kurzweil, which chooses the Daisy format. Both
retained
> > > the chapter headings and page numbering.
> > > There were no headings, since I had removed them.
> > > About other people's submissions I've downloaded, using Kurzweil and
more
> > > recently, Bookport, the pages were numbered and there were no garbled
> > > headers. Perhaps I have been lucky in choosing books that had all
headers
> > > stripped by the valadater, but I doubt it.
> > > Maybe the book is run through the stripper a number of times to catch
the
> > > junk, I don't know. I do not doubt that others have problems with the
> > > stripper, but so far I have not.
> > > I will now return to scanning Motive For Murder, which I will submit
in
> >the
> > > next several days.
> > > I feel all of us on this list should be proud of what we have
contributed
> > > to  a extremely worthy project.
> > >
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> > > Jim
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> > > At 04:22 PM 7/23/05, you wrote:
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> > > >Hi Jim,
> > > >I think everyone agrees with you about nonsensical header gap. <grin>
> > > >Unfortunately, it's those mangled headers that *don't* get stripped
by
> >the
> > > >stripper. When the headers are nice and neat and uniform they, along
with
> > > >page numbers and chapter headings, get munched without a second
thought.
> > > >Which leaves all of us, lovers and haters of headers alike, stuck
with
> >this
> > > >junk that isn't useful even to those of us who may actually need info
> >from
> > > >those headers.
> > > >Kellie
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