Let's try this again. I searched for the number 2 as part of a search not involving whole-word. Between pages twenty and thirty, after setting the pages so that page 1 is indeed page 1, I found that there was one 2 in the entire ten pages. You are right that the chapters do coincide with the contents, but most of the pages are not numbered. Now I can check using the contents, but if I want to talk to anybody about material in a given story, I can only hope that the numbering is right. Am I missing something? ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Pardees" <fpardee@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Where are those contrarians? > > > > > Kenneth, > I have just redownloaded Thieves Dozen with Kurzweil and you are right > that the page numbers are not correct, however, if you set the operator > page numbers to skip the preliminary pages and set page 1 at the actual > beginning of the book they are then correct and the table of > contents matches, so I do not believe there any missing page breaks. > > I have no idea how the Braille version would turn out. > I agree that the stripper could be modified in some way to retain the > actual page numbers, but I believe the elimination of the stripper would > result in even more confusion. > > Jim > > At 08:00 AM 7/24/05, you wrote: > > >I just downloaded Thieves Dozen. There are a few page numbers, but only a > >few in the copy I found. I looked only quickly, but even some of the > >chapters don't begin on the pages mentioned in the contents. I did not > >download the brf version, but I am going to do that now. I expect what will > >be mostly missing are the actual page breaks. But that, for the moment, is > >speculation. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "The Pardees" <fpardee@xxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:35 PM > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Where are those contrarians? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kellie, > > > > > > All I can comment on is my experience with my submissions that I have > >later > > > downloaded from Bookshare and read . Plus other submissions that I have > > > downloaded. Two examples of the first are Thieves Dozen and Cheapskate. > >I > > > downloaded them in Kurzweil, which chooses the Daisy format. Both retained > > > the chapter headings and page numbering. > > > There were no headings, since I had removed them. > > > About other people's submissions I've downloaded, using Kurzweil and more > > > recently, Bookport, the pages were numbered and there were no garbled > > > headers. Perhaps I have been lucky in choosing books that had all headers > > > stripped by the valadater, but I doubt it. > > > Maybe the book is run through the stripper a number of times to catch the > > > junk, I don't know. I do not doubt that others have problems with the > > > stripper, but so far I have not. > > > I will now return to scanning Motive For Murder, which I will submit in > >the > > > next several days. > > > I feel all of us on this list should be proud of what we have contributed > > > to a extremely worthy project. > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 04:22 PM 7/23/05, you wrote: > > > > > > >Hi Jim, > > > >I think everyone agrees with you about nonsensical header gap. <grin> > > > >Unfortunately, it's those mangled headers that *don't* get stripped by > >the > > > >stripper. When the headers are nice and neat and uniform they, along with > > > >page numbers and chapter headings, get munched without a second thought. > > > >Which leaves all of us, lovers and haters of headers alike, stuck with > >this > > > >junk that isn't useful even to those of us who may actually need info > >from > > > >those headers. > > > >Kellie > > > > > > > > > > > >