Kelie, The reason why braille uses three consecutive dots is for maximum space utilization and not to follow print convention. The UBC alters this, unfortunately in my opinion. Pratik Pratik Patel Managing Director CUNYAssistive Technology Services The City University of New York ppatel@xxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kellie Hartmann Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:50 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ellipses Pratik, thanks. I had no idea the dots appear separated in print. I think the braille translator may need some tweaking... Kellie