[bksvol-discuss] Re: paragraphs for validators, general question

  • From: Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:01:50 -0800

I can't speak for Daisy but in Braille, italicized words are not shown as such. I also seem to remember that not long ago there was a discussion about words with accents such as the cedilla? I am using Kurzweil and if there is any way that these signs can be reproduced in the braille finished product, I would welcome knowing how to do it. I know there are braille signs for these accent signs.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: paragraphs for validators, general question



Well, a long time ago I asked here on the list, and
the majority of people who responded said that books
were easier to read if there were line spaces between
paragraphs, so I try to do that. If I can't because
the text won't fit on the book's page, I indent
paragraphs.  Sometimes I receive the download with
spaces between the paragraphs, as with the book I'm
validating now.  Also, I'm told there are people with
disabilities other than sight who read the books and
they'd like to see the books with some indication of
paragraphs.
   As far as the line length goes, I sometimes try to
make them the same length as in the book by adjusting
the margins, and that works in some books, depending
on how many lines there are to a page, but the book's
font is different from the computer font, and not all
lines will end with the same word as in the book,
especially since we close up hyphenated words that
aren't normally hyphenated. Finally, sometimes in
order to make the page length correct, I sometimes
shorten the side margins.  Different editions of an
author's work, such as paperbacks and and LT editions,
don't have the same exact formatting as the original
(although occasionally they do) and so I didn't think
that was verboten.
  If I should do things differently, I hope someone
will tell me. I'm not quite sure what you mean by not
formatting. If you don't italicize or indent
medium-to-large quoted sections, when the book does,
then you re changing the book itself, more than merely
lengthening lines. Lengthening lines does, I agree,
change what the publisher has done to the original
book, but not doing other formatting changes what the
author intended.

Cindy


--- "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I do not format either.  Please know that that
changes the book itself.  So
do not add spaces or paragraphing even though Cindy
continues to do so for
some reason I never understood.

E.


At 08:28 PM 12/7/2005, you wrote:

>Lissi, maybe I am wrong in this but I don't format.
 I've validated books
>scanned by Caitlin, Tom, Jim P. and Carrie just to
name a few, but the four
>people I have listed have given me wonderfully
scanned books with very few
>errors.  I tend to concentrate on words--putting
hyphenated words together
>if they span a page break, getting rid of an excess
hyphen in the middle of
>a line, taking a word like
>re - active for example and making it reactive,
getting rid of garbage
>characters at the beginning or end of words.  My
feeling is that if, in a
>dialog for example, each person's quote begins on a
line of its own, and if
>the beginning of what seems to be a new paragraph
starts on a new line, I am
>not going to indent or add spaces. While I don't
have a braille display, I
>think if I did, I would blanch at the empty braille
cells indicating a
>paragraph on an 18 or 32 cell display, being happy
if each new paragraph
>began on a new line at the left hand margin.
>Shannon
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