David,
I believe you were spot on. If Lillian didn't look into it fully or not, is
not the issue, that would have been her fault. Maybe others think her
writing club, or whatever she does with her time is a waste but it is not of
anyone's business to express it on this list.
I agree with you 100 percent. This list is for computer and technical
information for the blind and vision impaired and not for bashing others on
what they do with their time.
Kurt
From: blind-philly-comp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-philly-comp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of martin nelson
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:10 PM
To: blind-philly-comp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-philly-comp] Re: A link to something about a navigational
tool that might not see the light of day and or might not be affordable
Hi, David: I think you may have over reacted to Lillian's message. I am sure
that she didn't go to the audio report to hear it. Per haps, Christina's
subject of the message was a little misleading. On hearing the report, the
product seems to have potential for wide use.
On 8/27/2015 8:33 PM, David Goldfield wrote:
Lillian,
During my train ride home I read your message which you wrote to Christina.
As the moderator of this list, as well as a technology enthusiast, I must
admit that I was both angered and shocked at your rudeness and
insensitivity. I have the following comments, which I would strongly urge
you to seriously consider.
1. First, the purpose of this list is for all of us to ask questions,
provide answers and support as well as to disseminate information about
technology for the blind, computer technology in particular. Christina has
done this with the link she shared, as well as all of the other links she
has provided in previous messages to this list.
2. While I try to accommodate the needs of all of the members on this list,
the list does not exist to solely cater to your needs and, frankly, to your
budget. The estimated cost of this item comes out to around $560.00 in U.S.
dollars. While you may not be able to afford such an item, has it occurred
to you that others on this list may be able to do so? I myself have posted
product announcements concerning items which are more than I can afford to
pay, such as Humanware selling a Braille display for around two thousand
dollars. Some of the products discussed on this list may be items which are
beyond your financial means to acquire. Some of them are unaffordable to me
as well but I am not so self-centered as to limit discussions about products
or services which only I can afford. Doing so would be unfair to others who
may find the information to be of interest or relevance.
3. If you have concerns about the appropriateness of a message posted to
this list, you are to contact me privately and express those concerns to me
off of the list. As the moderator of this group, I am the one who decides
whether a message is useless. Since I am the moderator of this list, I have
decided that Christina's message was quite useful and was extremely
appropriate. Christina's choice to post the link, while it may not have
seemed relevant to you, was in fact not a waste of her valuable time, as you
incorrectly stated. As moderator of this list, I am also forced to conclude
that your message to her was rude, insensitive and extremely inappropriate.
Christina, along with anyone else who is subscribed to this list, is free to
continue to submit links about new or developing products, regardless of
whether you can afford them or whether you personally find them of value.
You are free to delete or skip any messages which you may not be interested
in reading.
In closing, I would like to conclude by saying that I never, ever want to
see another message from you insulting or degrading any user of this group.
If you send another such message to the group you will be unsubscribed and
banned from this list.
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist
Feel free to visit my Web site
www.davidgoldfield.info
On 8/27/2015 2:37 PM, nascarlill1 wrote:
Hi, Christina;
Just curious but why would you send us a link to something that none of us
can afford even if it ever becomes available? It just seems like a waste of
your valuable time to me if the info's interesting but useless. Take care.
Lillian
----- Original Message -----
From: Christina Stolze <mailto:christinastolze@xxxxxxxxx>
To: blind-philly-comp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: [blind-philly-comp] A link to something about a navigational tool
that might not see the light of day and or might not be affordable
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