Chris, Please submit for me, and thank you again for acting on your brilliant
inspiration in creating such a rich opportunity for exchange! love to you,
sheila
I've seen Bert many times and have yet to hear his personal views about
anything. I have heard him tell of observations he's made over the many years
that he has done constellations, observations which he shares after observing
them repeatedly in the work. As for calling them conclusions of any sort, he
has repeatedly stated that their opposite and/or any variation on them, have
also been observed in the moment.
I recently saw a constellation which Stephan Hausner facilitated. He gave some
observations at the end which I will pass on here: "What is the dimension of
the decision? Very often, you think when you abort a child that things will be
the same after this, as they were before. Of course, they are not. There was a
living child, a woman became a mother, a man became a father and they became as
family and all this needs to be acknowledged. This is the full dimension of the
decision. Many times the father and the family are not acknowledged and
problems often result from this. When a person with whom we are connected is
not acknowleded, our own destiny is affected. What sometimes is missing, is the
blessing of the former partner, to the current family. What must be
acknowledged is that there was a bond forever. Abortion is one of the most
complex themes in family relationships."
All the best, sheila
Sheila Saunders, RN, MFT
Systemic Family Solutions
2nd US Conference on Systemic Constellations - Oct. 4-7, 2007
sheila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.systemicfamilysolutions.com
PO Box 2467
Fairview, NC. 28730
828-273-5015
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Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Re: Abortion
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:07:15 +0000
Thank you Brenda,
I was aghast at the idea that Bert considered all abortions murder and I have
yet to see them show up as murder. Just the opposite in fact. A loving exchange
saddened by grief and loss but a tenderness and acceptance that feels very
different to me than the shock and guilt and extreme suppression that shows up
when a murder is entangling a system. The Pope may consider abortion murder and
Bert as well but I remain comitted to listening to what the field tells me and
I suspect that this most forgiving field knows the difference in a person's
heart between wanting to end a pregnancy and wanting to destroy a life.
Peace to all,
Barbara
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