Perhaps you will get your chance if you watch the video of Bert's most recent
July visit.
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To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: chrisjwalsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:42:28 +1000
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Re: Abortion from Sheila Saunders
Chris, Please submit for me, and thank you again for acting on your brilliant
inspiration in creating such a rich opportunity for exchange! love to you,
sheila
I've seen Bert many times and have yet to hear his personal views about
anything. I have heard him tell of observations he's made over the many years
that he has done constellations, observations which he shares after observing
them repeatedly in the work. As for calling them conclusions of any sort, he
has repeatedly stated that their opposite and/or any variation on them, have
also been observed in the moment.
I recently saw a constellation which Stephan Hausner facilitated. He gave
some observations at the end which I will pass on here: "What is the
dimension of the decision? Very often, you think when you abort a child that
things will be the same after this, as they were before. Of course, they are
not. There was a living child, a woman became a mother, a man became a father
and they became as family and all this needs to be acknowledged. This is the
full dimension of the decision. Many times the father and the family are not
acknowledged and problems often result from this. When a person with whom we
are connected is not acknowleded, our own destiny is affected. What sometimes
is missing, is the blessing of the former partner, to the current family.
What must be acknowledged is that there was a bond forever. Abortion is one
of the most complex themes in family relationships."
All the best, sheila
Sheila Saunders, RN, MFT
Systemic Family Solutions
2nd US Conference on Systemic Constellations - Oct. 4-7, 2007
sheila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.systemicfamilysolutions.com
PO Box 2467
Fairview, NC. 28730
828-273-5015
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From: beggenberger@xxxxxxxxxxx
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To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Re: Abortion
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:07:15 +0000
Thank you Brenda,
I was aghast at the idea that Bert considered all abortions murder and I
have yet to see them show up as murder. Just the opposite in fact. A loving
exchange saddened by grief and loss but a tenderness and acceptance that
feels very different to me than the shock and guilt and extreme suppression
that shows up when a murder is entangling a system. The Pope may consider
abortion murder and Bert as well but I remain comitted to listening to what
the field tells me and I suspect that this most forgiving field knows the
difference in a person's heart between wanting to end a pregnancy and wanting
to destroy a life.
Peace to all,
Barbara
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