Dear Anngwyn ,
If I may add to your comment." and that's why so many artists, singers, who
drug themselves, who show "bad" acts in public , who have a scandalous life,
make so much success and attract millions of people- perhaps they represent an
unconscious part of everybody which is locked and hidden.
To me, definitely something is not right about being a good boy or a good
girl .Really, I spent great part of my life being a good girl and was no better
than anybody. But I became better when I started being "good "to my self. The
rest came in double dose to everybody else I related. And no more judgments,
no more eternal abstract concepts about whats good or bad in life! What a
freedom. Tks,
Zaquie Meredith
http://www.zaquie.com/constelacao.html
Brazil
----- Original Message -----
From: Anngwyn
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:33 PM
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Crime and punishment
Hello All,
Sooner or later those of us who work with victims and perpetrators have to
give some serious thought as to our understanding of good and evil. The
short version might be that they are interdependent, one cannot exist
without the other. Bert's thoughts on this subject have been very
challenging for therapists who believe that their task is to rescue good
victims from bad perpetrators.
Philip Zimbardo's book The Lucifer Effect has much to offer in explaining
how it is that good people can come to do bad things. In 1971 he conducted
a now famous experiment with Stanford students dividing them into
prisoners" and "guards". It became so brutally out of control that it had to
be stopped after a week.
And then there is also another famous experiment that was done at Yale
during the 1960s by Stanley Milgram. He set up a model whereby actors were
hired to be "learners" who would receive an electric shock if they gave a
wrong answer. There were no actual shocks given. The researcher posed as a
teacher" who then instructed volunteers for the study to administer the
shocks". for the learners own good. Most people would continue to press the
shock lever long after the "learners" (simulated) screams of pain.Few
questioned the instruction to continue inflicting pain as they were told
that this was "necessary"
All for now...
Anngwyn
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