Hi all.
One website I visit frequently, DailyKos, is a much larger forum, but still
it might be helpful to take a look at how they handle "trolls"-people who
post disruptive or very offensive comments. Instead of pre-emptively
censoring them, a group of "trusted users" are empowered to troll-rate
comments. Once a comment receives enough troll ratings, it's hidden from
view. This eliminates two problems right away-prior review of what people
want to post, and the discomfort people feel over leaving this decision in
the hands of just one person. Per their guidelines, "When you troll rate
something as a trusted user, you are stating that the comment is so bad --
so disruptive or damaging to the community -- that it isn't worth even a
debate, but should be deleted from the discussion as being simply
inflammatory, simply off-topic, or simply a lie." Also, troll ratings are
not to be used in a retaliatory way, or to express disagreement with a
poster's opinion. And you are not supposed to troll rate someone you are
having a heated argument with.
Admittedly, this system introduces a layer of complexity (who gets to be a
trusted user, and how?), but making such a group very inclusive, publically
known (and maybe even elected) could eliminate the spectre of censorship and
allow the conversation to continue with a high level of trust.
Just a thought.
Ed Levy
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From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Eggenberger
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:18 PM
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Group moderation & C.Talk Guidelines
Does the new step in moderating also mean that C-Talk goes off line when
Chris is off line?
That would be a huge reduction in flow.
Barb
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From: "Anutoshf" <anutoshf@gmail. <mailto:anutoshf%40gmail.com> com>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:29:18
To: <ConstellationTalk@ <mailto:ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Group moderation & C.Talk Guidelines
Dear Friends
Thank you Alemka and Sneh.
You have both expressed very clearly my viceral response to the moderation
process.
Yes, let the forum fly. We have all heard this before that out of chaos,
many stars are born.
Dietrich Weth used to say that this work is so much "Bigger" then us and it
is really not in our hands and i see this "Bigger" being expressed here
amongst us as we share ourselves through this forum being inspired by the
gift of this work.
Thank you Chris for making it possible for us to meet in this way which
invites for lots of stretching and being naked with each other. I am not
comfortable with anyone's contribution being excluded. We already know that
we are each part of the bigger whole and this work broadcasts it very loudly
and clearly. I agree with Sneh that we have the innate ability to monitor
for ourselves and bounce back. Besides all the differences make it more
juicy and fun. Also if my buttons get pushed, so much the better as this
will prevent me from snoring into Life and thinking i know it all.
Thank you Max regarding the rightful place for Bert Hellinger for ISCA. I
consider this gesture, Constellation Work 101. If not, all of these years of
exploring this work and growing with it would truly be in vain in my
opinion.
many hugs
Anutosh
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From: Sneh Victoria
To: ConstellationTalk@ <mailto:ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Group moderation & C.Talk Guidelines
Dear Chris,
The new addition in the moderation process does something funny with
me. It rather diminishes my joy of sharing in this forum.
I am still pondering why, and nevertheless will try to explain. So
far I found this forum a most beautiful place to share, explore and
have fun. For this I am utterly grateful to you. Just today I talked
with my group of trainees about it, encouraging them to join, talking
about the great open minded discussions we are having. Now I feel I
might have offered a toothless tiger to them.
What made you feel it necessary to go in this direction? I truly find
it a pity. I also believe it rather feeds distrust and hampers open
discussion. But I also must say I have no idea what disturbing mails
if any you might have had to deal with in the past. (But even than I
would rather like to choose to have my own opinion about it.)
And: I am totally aware this being your forum and therefore you
should truly do what fits to your needs. I also am glad you ask for
feedback and that is what I am trying to do with this mail.
I believe there is a part in me who wants to say: relax, you do not
need to protect us, we are all grown up and certainly had to deal
with a lot of worse stuff in our lives than hurtful and unfriendly
feedback. I just cannot believe that any one working with the tuff
issues we often have to face in constellations would want to choose
to take part in a forum that feels like a toothless tiger. So my
suggestion is: give some credit to our all ability to bounce back,
our own good judgement and let the forum fly!
With warmth, Sneh
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