With respect to Hellinger, I believe it is important to go from our own
experience in these things. Surely you have recognized the difference between
one facilitator and another; how one carries a sense of weight and substance in
the field, while another may seem to be very light and ungrounded there. In my
own experience, this plays out in the impact of their work as well. Those who
have the greatest weight seem to be the most connected to the field as well,
while the less grounded are prone to psychological rather than soul level
solutions. These soul level solutions provide lasting transformations in the
family soul, while the psychological solutions tend to fade after a few weeks
or months.
Namaste,
Kenn Day
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On Jan 5, 2013, at 8:51 PM, "deborah_g_frangquist" <choices@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Thank you, Barbara. I incline to believe this matter of weight is a
concept he talked about but didn't write about, and your recollection is
very helpful. (I'd welcome word from others as well.) If you don't
know of a place where he wrote about it, that goes a long way toward
proving the negative.
Perhaps I should clarify what I meant about asserting more or less
weight, because what I was taught agrees with what you say: One holds
or has weight rather than being able to create or obtain it in the
moment or by effort or learning. The teacher's point may be especially
relevant to those of us in the United States, since we have such a
tendency to go charging into situations to "fix" them, which is
diametrically opposite to the phenomenological presence of a good
facilitator.
Your point about being able to feel someone's weight in a hug reminds me
of being present when Archbishop Desmond Tutu spoke in a large
cathedral. He is physically a very small man, and yet he filled the
space with his presence and his smile in a way that was palpable.
Happy New Year to all.
Deborah Frangquist
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Barbara Morgan wrote:
anything
Hi Deborah,
I think I picked this up verbally from Bert. I don't recall seeing
in writing about it. He mostly talked about 'weight in terms ofmothers and
those who don't have children. I don't recall reading anything aboutthe
weight of the facilitator. It's a strange idea to me to think aboutthe
idea of asserting more or less weight because I think it is somethingyou
have in you. The weight is, as you say, gained through lifeexperience,
being a parent, being a facilitator, suffering, age etc. and can't becan
created or moulded in the way you were taught, at least as far as I
see. I can often feel it when I hug someone.made
Happy New Year everyone!
Barbara Morgan
Barbara Morgan
Family Constellations Trainer, Supervisor & Practitioner
www.cominghome.org.uk
Editor of
The Knowing Field
International Constellations Journal
www.theknowingfield.com
On 4 January 2013 16:59, deborahgf wrote:
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Hello Everyone: I'm looking for specific statements Bert Hellinger
When Iabout the "weight" of the facilitator as a factor in constellations.
asserttrained, I was taught that it's phenomenologically important not to
thatmore or less weight as facilitator than one actually possesses - and
being aweight is affected by factors such as age & life experience or by
comesparent, as well as by training and experience as a facilitator.
I find this an important and useful concept, but I wonder where it
orfrom. Can anyone guide me to specific statements - either in English
German - from Hellinger himself? Please send directly to me at
choices@... or Deborah@... - and if I get
useful replies I'll compile them and send to the group for everyone.
Thanks so much,
Deborah Gavrin Frangquist
Career & Life Design for Professionals, Artists & Executives
415-346-6121; mobile 415-642-0225
www.ChosenFutures.com
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Barbara Morgan
Family Constellations Trainer, Supervisor & Practitioner
Editor of
The Knowing Field
International Constellations Journal
www.theknowingfield.com
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