Re: [ConstellationTalk] The Greater Soul...........

  • From: Sandra Batts <creativebreakthroughs@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:33:42 -0800 (PST)

Good Morning everyone,
  I've just woken up and have had only one cup of coffee, please bare with me.  
I have a question...is there a separation between "The larger soul" that 
connects us all and the "individual soul"? In reading the posts, what comes to 
me is that if there is no difference between the "larger" all -connecting soul 
and the "individual" finger of that soul that can be housed within each human, 
then the woundedness that separates a person from their soul would be within 
the human.  So it makes sense to me that healing the human would allow that 
person to "feel" the connection with his/her soul.  I'm not so sure that the 
soul leaves the human. It's more like something has happened in that person's 
system that wouldn't allow them to "feel" the connection to this great force 
that lives within  them. From personal experience, I've come to recognize that 
our divine natures (our souls) are always within us, it is us that have to 
learn to see it and connect with it most importantly accepting the
 fact that we deserve something so amazing. 
   
  This is where constellations work so well, giving the client a chance to see 
that the entanglement within his system keeps him/her separated from this life 
force, moving into a resolution that will help change the client's perceptions 
so that they can "see" the soul that is within them and fully accept that they 
are worthy to house such an energy.
   
  Just a thought on a rainy Saturday.  I have begun to read the book on 
proprioceptive writing and as often happens, what the author writes about 
confirms some of my own thoughts.  Great book so far!
   
  Namaste,
  Sandy Batts
David Mathes <davidmathes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Thanks Diane, that opens up some interesting thoughts for me, about different 
resolutions, of wounded souls etc.  

Regarding the person and the soul standing together, and comments over the last 
few days on CT about the relationship of the soul to the person, I wonder how 
they stood together.

For example, I remember a constellation at Zist where there was a 
representative for 'life'. The representative of the person tried to embrace 
life and life said ' no, I embrace you' and proceeded to do just that.

David


on 21/1/06 2:17 PM, DIANE YANKELEVITZ at diane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

  David,
Yes, I have seen several constellations where souls were represented. At first 
they may be located away from the person. A good resolution is that the person 
and the soul be united, stand together.

Diane Yankelevitz
www.WisdomHealing.com <http://www.WisdomHealing.com
Bozeman, MT
  ----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Mathes <mailto:davidmathes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] The Greater Soul...........

  Regarding the discussion on souls, does anyone have any knowledge of souls 
themselves being represented in constellations? 


David Mathes
Inner Success Pty Ltd
Melbourne Australia
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on 18/1/06 12:34 PM, Preeti Helena at preeti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

  Hi Stefan

I would like to add another angle to this discussion. When I read this quote by 
Hellinger I am not just seeing what he says about the "Greater Soul". He is 
also describing clearly how he accesses this information and has insights.

At the moment I am reading an excellent book called "blink" by Malcolm Gladwell 
about the power of thinking without thinking. It is a summary of stories and 
scientific research on how people have sudden insights and how they access it. 
Mostly it is by having access to a level that is just below consciousness and 
trusting it. But there are rules and consistencies to this, which are explored 
in this book. I am totally fascinated by this book, because I feel that is the 
level where constellations work. They can be used to help people access this 
level more consciously. And I also feel that I can talk to people who are new 
to constellations much easier using this concept than a metaphor of the 
'greater soul'. Almost everybody can remember a decision they made in an 
instant or something they knew without being able to explain why. 

Personally I prefer the concept that we have a, not always conscious, inner 
image, that can be accessed through constellations to the one of a soul and 
greater soul. 

Preeti Helena

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On 17/01/2006, at 4:24 PM, merlin7win@xxxxxxx wrote:

  
Hello from San Diego,



On page 249 of LHS Hellinger states "I experience the process of finding an 
order as turning inward, while  at the same time, keeping everything in 
view-without intention, without fear of consequences. When I'm completely 
gathered in myself in this way, I'm in contact with something I call the 
Greater Soul. It's something secret, but there is a force that pours out of it. 
When I am in contact with that force, I can recognize the structures that help 
people and that hinder them.



My question for the group.....is do you guys understand that our individual 
souls kind of merge into our family souls, and that these two separate but 
unique and united entities then flow into the Greater Soul of all humanity? Is 
this the process by which we are all connected  to everyone  and we can access 
the knowing fields of individuals and families of everyone on the planet.



Stefan

San Diego
      


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