Re: [ConstellationTalk] The Greater Soul...........

  • From: David Mathes <davidmathes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:28:16 +1100

Thanks Janne,

That's what I was looking for, just some experiences of representing souls
in constellations.


David


on 24/1/06 7:02 PM, Martinengo and Ward at genesis-theexperience@xxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Helo David  
Regarding your question about souls themselves being represented---
In a recent workshop where the participants were 'careleavers'- (people who
had been in institutional care as children and young adults),a woman
presented with an overpowering fear of the Deaconess. She had become a
haunting memory and presence and the subject of frequent nightmares for her.
Over the past year her boss ,,who had similar 'deaconess energy', acted as a
catalyst for the terror this woman felt as a young child.
The constellation was very moving and simple with little intervention on my
part.
 
A rep for the client and the deaconess were positioned facing one another--
after a short time the deaconess reported 'feeling enormous, a towering
presence and that she could do anything she liked to the
'child.'Simultaneouslythe client's representative was visibly shrinking,
After some time I chose a representative for the clients soul, and asked her
to find her place First she moved in front in a protective manner and after
some time.turned and embraced the clients rep., where upon the'child' with
each breath,filled with love and strength and 'grew up' When this was
complete the soul stood behind,
The deaconess reported 'feeling the power drain out of her' as this
happened.
As the two stood facing each other , the deaconess reported' now I have no
power over her' 
The woman took her place and was joyously relieved,
I have chosen representatives for the 'spirit of the land', God. life love
and they have all responded and moved in a clear deep and unifying way.
To all who have shared  My heartfelt thanks to you and Blessings for this
New Year
Janne martinengo   

----- 





Regarding the discussion on souls, does anyone have any knowledge of souls
themselves being represented in constellations?


David Mathes
Inner Success Pty Ltd
Melbourne Australia
W:http://www.innersuccess.net.au
E:davidmathes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


on 18/1/06 12:34 PM, Preeti Helena at preeti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hi Stefan

I would like to add another angle to this discussion. When I read this quote
by Hellinger I am not just seeing what he says about the "Greater Soul". He
is also describing clearly how he accesses this information and has
insights.

At the moment I am reading an excellent book called "blink" by Malcolm
Gladwell about the power of thinking without thinking. It is a summary of
stories and scientific research on how people have sudden insights and how
they access it. Mostly it is by having access to a level that is just below
consciousness and trusting it. But there are rules and consistencies to
this, which are explored in this book. I am totally fascinated by this book,
because I feel that is the level where constellations work. They can be used
to help people access this level more consciously. And I also feel that I
can talk to people who are new to constellations much easier using this
concept than a metaphor of the 'greater soul'. Almost everybody can remember
a decision they made in an instant or something they knew without being able
to explain why. 

Personally I prefer the concept that we have a, not always conscious, inner
image, that can be accessed through constellations to the one of a soul and
greater soul. 

Preeti Helena

Helena Consulting Pty Ltd
PO Box 689
Bulimba Q 4171
Australia

p (07) 3395 6195
m 0419 217 229
e preeti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

www.helena-consulting.com.au





On 17/01/2006, at 4:24 PM, merlin7win@xxxxxxx wrote:

 
Hello from San Diego,



On page 249 of LHS Hellinger states "I experience the process of finding an
order as turning inward, while  at the same time, keeping everything in
view-without intention, without fear of consequences. When I'm completely
gathered in myself in this way, I'm in contact with something I call the
Greater Soul. It's something secret, but there is a force that pours out of
it. When I am in contact with that force, I can recognize the structures
that help people and that hinder them.



My question for the group.....is do you guys understand that our individual
souls kind of merge into our family souls, and that these two separate but
unique and united entities then flow into the Greater Soul of all humanity?
Is this the process by which we are all connected  to everyone  and we can
access the knowing fields of individuals and families of everyone on the
planet.



Stefan

San Diego
       


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