AOL EmailHello Thomas et al - you will notice that I am using your full name
of Thomas as requested by you after a workshop in the summer.
I have not felt it necessary to reply to all the 'goings on' of the past few
constellation talks but feel drawn to do so now just to say that while not
being against humour, self expression etc.. I feel that all of your self
expression has taken up a lot of time and space on this site and it was not
intended (I do not believe) to be an instrument for getting into one's own
therapy or cyber constellation.
I had even thougth of discontinuing my constellation talk membership because of
the excess. I would rather spend my time connecting with others through the
work. I do not denigrate you in any way just feel that perhaps you have taken
up too much space and you could find another outlet for all this.
With respect for your journey.
Helena Sprake - (S. California)
----- Original Message -----
From: TomBuoyed@xxxxxxx
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] finally resolving my cyber-constellation
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, EJ52@A... wrote:
>
> Dear Thomas,
> I think you have been representing Jesse James, a constellator from
the
> midwest of America, whose work is well known. I believe his Family
Constellations with Cole Younger and Frank Dalton to be the best ever recorded.
He also was a chronicler of train traffic and small town banks. A major
difference between you two is that he did not know Eddie Z.
> Ed
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Dear Ed,
Wow, what an eye- and heart-opening response! I was convinced that I
was representing someone still alive, but now you make me realize that I had
been excluding the dead ones. Shame on me. And Duh! Here I am posturing during
the month of November, when the Dead Ones are to be celebrated, and I fail to
consider that I might be representing one of their ilk.
And with the offering of Jesse James, that inspires me to create an old
fashioned Wild West wanted poster.
___________________________________________
WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE!!!
The person Thomas is representing
in his cyber-constellation
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I'm also very heartened by the Jesse James attribution as you touch
upon the systemic dynamics of robbery. Stealing in any form seems to be an
expression of an interrupted movement in taking what the parents have to give.
In adult life, this can manifest as a deeply unconscious sense of entitlement
where someone takes from the public treasure house of society what could not be
taken easily from Mom and Dad. It may also be that the robber on the lam then
carries the guilt of the parents as his own even after he is captured and put
away in the pen.
I may not be robbing physical banks in this lifetime, but as for "soul
banks?" That's worthy of a full FC.
Now, Ed, as a reward for putting forth a candidate for me, I have
conjured up a nickname for you, a proper sobriquet that will express your
(systemic?) essence --- at least as far as I know you, which is not much right
now. However, what first came to mind was:
Easy Eddie Lynch
mainly because of the ease with which you work with the dead ones in
constellations. However an extended name also came up.
Over Easy Eddie Lynch
I'll let you decide which is more fitting and when I get to know you
more, perhaps a new and improved name may emerge.
I'm also so glad that you got to know Eddie Z. in Portland. And by the
way, for the benefit of all you CT members out there, Edward Zawidowski told me
specifically that if I did not refer to him as Uncle Eddie on the CT forum, he
would feel insulted.
However, I was moved to change his name from Uncle Eddie to a more
fitting Fast Eddie.
At our first training session, we were discussing the CT "flap" over my
references to Uncle Bert, etc., which were judged disrespectful and offended
several people here. While I do feel sorry for offending those people and I
even feel the need to apologize to them, I also have to realize that we are
facilitators in training here, and we need to go beyond personal sympathies and
antipathies brought up by each other.
So, my fellow CT colleagues: I honestly did not consciously intend to
insult or show disrespect to Bert Hellinger. Over the last three months, I have
become conscious of a lot of the perp energy I have been carrying, and much of
that due to my "constellation twin" Stefan Bajon, who expressed great insight
into my situation in his recent post.
(Stefan and I have represented each other and each other's family
members (even each other's bodies fer Chrissake!) in many constellations here
in L.A. so I'm happy that he can act as a real grounding kind of older brother
figure for me when I get too rambunctious on this forum.)
At any rate, I do apologize to all on the list who may have been
offended by my Frank Farrelly type references to Bert. And thank you Over Easy
Eddie for smoothing the way this morning for me to discharge a lot of this
tension hanging in the cyber-air.
Thomas
PS Perhaps you may gain some insight into my character or lack of it,
if you realize that I have been a high school teacher of math and physics. Just
imagine being locked up in a room for an hour with 25 teenagers and your job is
to get them to do what they don't really want to do. And you are trapped inside
together until the bell rings. That may possibly explain why my "threshold of
disrespect" may be a lot higher than the normal. I mean if you want to be an
MD, you have to be able to overcome the natural recoiling emotions related to
blood, gore and broken bodies. Similarly, high school teachers develop an
analogous immunity to insults, name-calling and other joyous expressions of
raging adolescence. I have to realize that I am now in a cyber classroom of
sorts with adults where I am representing my own systemically arrested
adolescence, not to mention the Catholic Church as Stefan points out so deftly.
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