me, too. Barbara Phillips
On 10/25/2020 10:13 AM, Sophia sophiakny@xxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] wrote:
Dear all, I also please would like to stay on the list.
Thank you very much,
Sophia Kramer
sophiakny@xxxxxxx
Stop and smell the roses
On Oct 25, 2020, at 1:38 PM, 'Mahr' a.u.b.mahr@xxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Chris, Barbara, Tom and all Constellation Talkers,
I am interested to remain on the address list of any continuing organization following Chris’ original Constellation Talk.
Do I have to do anything, in addition to declaring it here, that I have to do?
If I do not receive an answer to my question I will interpret that as the answer “no, nothing”.
Be all very well,
Albrecht
a.u.b.mahr@xxxxxxxxxxx
*Von:* ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Gesendet:* Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2020 07:04
*An:* ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Betreff:* Re: [ConstellationTalk] yahoo groups shutdown December 15: Adios Amigos
Great to hear some are picking up the baton. Chris do you still want me to go ahead with looking at the possibility of archiving previous email exchanges on TKF website? Is that a separate issue?
Warmly
Barbara
Sent from my iPhone
On 25 Oct 2020, at 02:22, Tommy Waikiki tommyvacation@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:tommyvacation@xxxxxxxxx> [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Chris,
Freelists is completely free, on Linux, Apache server, it's been
around for 20 years, they say there will be no adds, ever. No
limit on number of users, or bandwidth.
I had already registered ConstellationTalk on freelists a few
hours after your first post not realizing now
that you are looking for more candidates to be the moderator.
Therefore, I would like to volunteer this venue on freelists for
your choosing either for Daniel lr to whoever else of your choosing.
I also have reserved the same name on the following:
Google Groups
Groups.io
Facebook Groups
Please feel free to use them and if you would consider my request...
Please stay
Warm Regards,
Tommy Tran
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 6:27 PM Chris Walsh chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
That looks good Daniel
Has anyone here had experience with free lists and does
anyone know whether they bombard people with advertising or
have any other nasty hidden gremlins?
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9420 1425
www.mindfulness.org.au <https://www..mindfulness..org.au/>
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:58 AM Daniel Gackle
danielgackle@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:danielgackle@xxxxxxxxxx>
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I heard back from the FreeLists people. Not only can they
import the archives, they already have software prepared
to migrate Yahoo Groups into their system
(https://www.freelists.org/wiki/doku.php?id=migrating_from_other_services
<https://www.freelists.org/wiki/doku.php?id=migrating_from_other_services>).
They said that if we run their script to download the
content from Yahoo, they will do the rest.
They will also take care of migrating the existing
subscribers, which would mean an easy transition for most
of the group.
Not only that, but they only took a few minutes to answer
my email, and did so personally.. That is an unusually
good sign.
I will try my hand at running their script to see if it
actually does download the ConstellationTalk archives
from Yahoo. I'll then report back to the group. This may
take me a few days.
Daniel
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 4:40 PM Daniel Gackle
<danielgackle@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:danielgackle@xxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Greetings all,
ConstellationTalk and its archive are one of the
treasures of the work in the English-speaking world.
I hope that it can continue, along with its rich archive.
I haven't posted to CT before. I'm a constellation
facilitator and a loyal reader and, like all of you
here, I love constellation work. In my day job, I
work in the tech industry and operate an internet
forum with about 5 million users.
I agree with Mishra and others that CT will do much
better to continue as an email list. Many members,
including some of our esteemed elders, do not have
accounts on Facebook, Nextdoor, or other platforms.
We will lose them if we try to make such a switch..
There are many other problems with these platforms
too, but perhaps that's for another discussion.
For email lists, Google Groups and Groups.io are
options. Another one that looks excellent and has a
fine community spirit is https://www.freelists..org/
<https://www.freelists.org/>. The question is whether
any of these providers could also integrate the
previous history of ConstellationTalk (all 18 years'
worth of emails!). I've emailed both Groups.io and
FreeLists to ask them this. (Google is too big to ask.)
Chris, you mentioned "/migration to groups.io
<http://groups.io> appears to be a very tedious
process. If someone else is willing and able to
shepherd that process that would be good but I
understand there is a queue and it would have to
start soon/." Did you hear this from Groups.io? and
could you say what you understand the migration
process to be?
I will be happy to pay someone who wants to do the
"shepherding", if we can find a way to do it. We may
also have the option to first 'reboot' CT on one of
these other email list providers, and then deal with
the migration later, as long as a download of the
archive exists.
Thank you Chris for your magnificent work in this
community. Thank you Barbara M. for offering The
Knowing Field as a home—and what a wonderful one—for
this valuable material..
Daniel Gackle
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:50 PM Chris Walsh
chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Useful and practical points about the various
platforms Mishra
I can add that migration to groups io appears to
be a very tedious process. If somone else is
willing ang able to shepherd that process that
would be good but I understand there is a queue
and it would have to start soon.
That aside it sounds like google groups might be
the best option
Cheers
Chris Walsh
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 1:20 am, S Mishra Suloway
mishra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mishra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hello All
My thanks as well to Chris, and all of you
whose sharings and attention have made the
list so valuable since I joined in 2005.
Looking to the future:
I do hope C-Talk doesn’t migrate to Nextdoor.
I’ve used Nextdoor for years to stay in touch
with my physical neighborhood, which is what
the platform is designed for; one chooses
which tiny geographical areas one wishes to
broadcast to and receive from.
Nextdoor is full of ads, even more than
Facebook. Both those platforms are more about
serving ads than serving information.
And I have ethical objections to Facebook’s
content standards and practices, so I also
hope we don’t go to Facebook.
I am on a different list (Copyediting-L)
which recently migrated to *Groups.......io*
— another of the platforms recommended by Yahoo.
That list remains purely about the subject
content, as we have been accustomed to on
C-Talk at Yahoo all these years.
I have no experience with Google Groups, but
I have found several other Google services to
be purely about content — aside from bringing
you into the Google ecosystem, where the
commercial hook is not directly based on
advertising.
Special thanks to those who are contemplating
the work of migrating and managing for the
future!
Regards,
Mishra Suloway
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
S Mishra Suloway
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
> On Oct 24, 2020, at 3:29, Tommy Waikiki
tommyvacation@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:tommyvacation@xxxxxxxxx>
[ConstellationTalk]
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I'd like to ask for your consent for me to
move Constellation Talk from Yahoo groups to
Nextdoor (as suggested by Yahoo groups.)
>
> I am touched by your earnest decision to
let go and by welcoming someone else to take
over.
>
> I take it as a selfless act of gifting:
giving without asking anything in return.
>
> In return, without any future obligation or
responsibility of your part, I take it with
my own implied obligation
> to continue it as it is.
>
> ConstellationTalk is on Nextdoor but the
rules which you have developed and improved
over the years will
> stay the same as they are..
>
> We now have 2 more members join me, Daniel
G. and Anni M.. (and more as needed) to
complete the task.
>
> We are duly following the Spiritual Family
Constellation tradition;
>
> You are first, we are second.
>
> Constellation Talk will continue to make
you proud.
>
> We ask you to smile kindly upon us as we
carry on and in due time be a little better.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Tommy Tran
> My task is to reduce entropy,
> do away with fear
> to become love.
>
>
>
--
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9420 1425
www.mindfulness.org.au
<https://www.mindfulness.org.au/>
