Please keep me on the e-mail list Thank You Blanche Tanner
lifeshift@xxxxxxxxxxx
__._,_.___Dear all, I also please would like to stay on the list.
Thank you very much,
Sophia Kramer sophiakny@xxxxxxx
Stop and smell the roses
On Oct 25, 2020, at 1:38 PM, 'Mahr' a.u.b.mahr@xxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Chris, Barbara, Tom and all Constellation Talkers,
I am interested to remain on the address list of any continuing organization following Chris’ original Constellation Talk.
Do I have to do anything, in addition to declaring it here, that I have to do?
If I do not receive an answer to my question I will interpret that as the answer “no, nothing”.
Be all very well,
Albrecht
Von: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2020 07:04
An: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: [ConstellationTalk] yahoo groups shutdown December 15: Adios Amigos
Great to hear some are picking up the baton. Chris do you still want me to go ahead with looking at the possibility of archiving previous email exchanges on TKF website? Is that a separate issue?
Warmly
Barbara
Sent from my iPhone
On 25 Oct 2020, at 02:22, Tommy Waikiki tommyvacation@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Chris,
Freelists is completely free, on Linux, Apache server, it's been around for 20 years, they say there will be no adds, ever. No limit on number of users, or bandwidth.
I had already registered ConstellationTalk on freelists a few hours after your first post not realizing now
that you are looking for more candidates to be the moderator.
Therefore, I would like to volunteer this venue on freelists for your choosing either for Daniel lr to whoever else of your choosing.
I also have reserved the same name on the following:
Google Groups
Groups.io
Facebook Groups
Please feel free to use them and if you would consider my request...
Please stay
Warm Regards,
Tommy Tran
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 6:27 PM Chris Walsh chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That looks good Daniel
Has anyone here had experience with free lists and does anyone know whether they bombard people with advertising or have any other nasty hidden gremlins?
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9420 1425
www.mindfulness.org.au
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:58 AM Daniel Gackle danielgackle@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I heard back from the FreeLists people. Not only can they import the archives, they already have software prepared to migrate Yahoo Groups into their system (https://www.freelists.org/wiki/doku.php?id=migrating_from_other_services). They said that if we run their script to download the content from Yahoo, they will do the rest.
They will also take care of migrating the existing subscribers, which would mean an easy transition for most of the group.
Not only that, but they only took a few minutes to answer my email, and did so personally.. That is an unusually good sign.
I will try my hand at running their script to see if it actually does download the ConstellationTalk archives from Yahoo. I'll then report back to the group. This may take me a few days.Daniel
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 4:40 PM Daniel Gackle <danielgackle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings all,
ConstellationTalk and its archive are one of the treasures of the work in the English-speaking world. I hope that it can continue, along with its rich archive.
I haven't posted to CT before. I'm a constellation facilitator and a loyal reader and, like all of you here, I love constellation work. In my day job, I work in the tech industry and operate an internet forum with about 5 million users.
I agree with Mishra and others that CT will do much better to continue as an email list. Many members, including some of our esteemed elders, do not have accounts on Facebook, Nextdoor, or other platforms. We will lose them if we try to make such a switch.. There are many other problems with these platforms too, but perhaps that's for another discussion.
For email lists, Google Groups and Groups.io are options. Another one that looks excellent and has a fine community spirit is https://www.freelists..org/. The question is whether any of these providers could also integrate the previous history of ConstellationTalk (all 18 years' worth of emails!). I've emailed both Groups.io and FreeLists to ask them this. (Google is too big to ask.)
Chris, you mentioned "migration to groups.io appears to be a very tedious process. If someone else is willing and able to shepherd that process that would be good but I understand there is a queue and it would have to start soon." Did you hear this from Groups.io? and could you say what you understand the migration process to be?
I will be happy to pay someone who wants to do the "shepherding", if we can find a way to do it. We may also have the option to first 'reboot' CT on one of these other email list providers, and then deal with the migration later, as long as a download of the archive exists.
Thank you Chris for your magnificent work in this community. Thank you Barbara M. for offering The Knowing Field as a home—and what a wonderful one—for this valuable material..
Daniel Gackle
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:50 PM Chris Walsh chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Useful and practical points about the various platforms Mishra
I can add that migration to groups io appears to be a very tedious process. If somone else is willing ang able to shepherd that process that would be good but I understand there is a queue and it would have to start soon.
That aside it sounds like google groups might be the best option
Cheers
Chris Walsh
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 1:20 am, S Mishra Suloway mishra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello All
My thanks as well to Chris, and all of you whose sharings and attention have made the list so valuable since I joined in 2005.
Looking to the future:
I do hope C-Talk doesn’t migrate to Nextdoor.
I’ve used Nextdoor for years to stay in touch with my physical neighborhood, which is what the platform is designed for; one chooses which tiny geographical areas one wishes to broadcast to and receive from.
Nextdoor is full of ads, even more than Facebook. Both those platforms are more about serving ads than serving information.
And I have ethical objections to Facebook’s content standards and practices, so I also hope we don’t go to Facebook.
I am on a different list (Copyediting-L) which recently migrated to *Groups.......io* — another of the platforms recommended by Yahoo.
That list remains purely about the subject content, as we have been accustomed to on C-Talk at Yahoo all these years.
I have no experience with Google Groups, but I have found several other Google services to be purely about content — aside from bringing you into the Google ecosystem, where the commercial hook is not directly based on advertising.
Special thanks to those who are contemplating the work of migrating and managing for the future!
Regards,
Mishra Suloway
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S Mishra Suloway
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
> On Oct 24, 2020, at 3:29, Tommy Waikiki tommyvacation@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I'd like to ask for your consent for me to move Constellation Talk from Yahoo groups to Nextdoor (as suggested by Yahoo groups.)
>
> I am touched by your earnest decision to let go and by welcoming someone else to take over.
>
> I take it as a selfless act of gifting: giving without asking anything in return.
>
> In return, without any future obligation or responsibility of your part, I take it with my own implied obligation
> to continue it as it is.
>
> ConstellationTalk is on Nextdoor but the rules which you have developed and improved over the years will
> stay the same as they are..
>
> We now have 2 more members join me, Daniel G. and Anni M.. (and more as needed) to complete the task.
>
> We are duly following the Spiritual Family Constellation tradition;
>
> You are first, we are second.
>
> Constellation Talk will continue to make you proud.
>
> We ask you to smile kindly upon us as we carry on and in due time be a little better.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Tommy Tran
> My task is to reduce entropy,
> do away with fear
> to become love.
>
>
>--
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9420 1425
www.mindfulness.org.au
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