I have some thoughts about CT talk and the discussion that followed. The
question that comes up for me is does the CT talk list include Arbrecht and
Brigitte Mayr´s work on Colletive Wisdom? If so, issues on ídentities and
trancending identity, consciousness, activism and working for peace belong on
this list.
Does building a civil society fit under Collective Wisdom?
Does politics fit under Collective Wisdom?
I have noticed that the word politics stirs up both positive and negative
energy for me. I wonder if anyone has done a constellation on politics?
Doesn´t politics exist in all kinds of system such as families, the work place,
communities, different cultures and globally.
I am currently in San Christobal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico where uprising
and revolutions are commerated throughout the city and appear to be a part of
the identity of this city. Are upraising about power or about perserving a
culture or about a commuity´s way of life?
I don´t know that constellations as we do them today can answer these
questions, but I think if we start now including the idea of politics or power
dynamics in family system and in organizations we will get a better
understanding of the systemic dynamics of power and politics.
I would like to make an observation that I hope does not break the rule about
politics on this list. The response of people around the globe to Obama´s
election was a positive expression of collective wisdom. Talking about the
campaign and the specifics of electoral politics is inappropriate. I think
encouraging people to vote and voting is a civic activity and I don´t know
where that fits. Constellations and further exploration of Collective Wisdom
might tell us where a civil society belongs.
Ellen Pillard
Reno, NV USA
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From: Stephen Campbell <coachuno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:29:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Recent conversation
Dear Friends,
I am reasonably new to this work and the world it encompasses. I want to say
that CT has been such a breath of fresh air for me. While I am completely
bilingual (Spanish and English) and my entire basic training towards
becoming a FC facilitator has been done Spanish, to be able to read and
very occasionally post in English has been a Godsend. I thank Chris for
creating this group and do all that it requires to keep it moving. I too
have been a "guardian" of a professional electronic group and I have some
appreciation for the time and dedication it requires. A heartfelt Thank You
Chris!!
I would also like to extend my gratitude to all of those who post on a more
frequent basis than I. I read them all with care in a effort to learn and
understand. Frankly some resonate other do not. Not surprising.
I do resonate with the language issues that Wilfred raised. I fantasized, on
an early morning run following his post, that like magic, and it may not be
that far off, I could belong to a group like this and presto could read the
posting in whatever language I chose. And, I could also post in any
language. Unfortunately, the automatic translators are not quite up to the
task at this time. But what a concept!!
I have been fascinated by the ebb and flow of comments regarding posting,
staying on topic, and the need to provide monitoring of messages to insure
the intention and mission of this group. I have put all the comments and
feelings therein expressed up against the "centro vacio" or "empty space"
that I have learned is crucial in the work as a facilitator. As I have
learned and have observed facilitators like Stefan, Anngwyn and of course
Bert and Gunthar as they set aside their preconceptions, personal
preoccupations and their prejudices; or so it seems to me the observer.
Obviously, I have no idea what is actually going on within the confines of
their head; but the sense I have is that is what they do. In my terms, they
have set their EGO to one side.
Many of these comments that I read flew in the face, from my reading and
understanding, of the concept of an "empty space". I have no intention to
point fingers I just reflect on the challenge that presents itself for each
of us to maintain that "empty space" in both our work and in our lives. For
I am finding that the more I practice maintaining the "empty space" in my
life the more freedom and peace I experience. And I certainly have lived
through those moments early on in my practice as a facilitator where I,
consciously or unconsciously, left the "empty space" and the work became
turgid and challenging. Likewise in life.
So, what if we experienced both CT and ISCA from the perspective of the
"empty space". Could we give and get far more from each experience
irrespective of their natural imperfections which seem to be the natural
byproduct of their human creation and operation? In Constellation work we
guide towards the participants, at a soul level, accepting what is so; could
we do the same thing in our lives?
I am curious and wondering. What say thee?
Fondly,
Stephen
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