Paul,
Thank you for your reply. I'm sure to have some of your experiences
as I venture forth - your questions and observations are valuable
for me - they give me the chance to consider how to handle these
issues before I personally face them.
Chris,
Without this forum, I would feel very alone, indeed. I am so
grateful because not only do I feel lifted up by all of you, I feel
more secure about building a more solid foundation as I grow.
Many thanks to all!
Trish Ball
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Paul Chung
<paulchung330@y...> wrote:
Dear Trish,layman facilitator. I'm a layman facilitator, have been hiding
Thank you for bringing up this important issue.
Dear Chris,
Thank you for listing the important reference points for the
I'll go to take a First Aid Course and arrange backup from
I'm glad that I have been observing and practising Pt. 1 to 6. And
can facilitate Systemic Constellation. And I also remember Gunthard
I remember Bert said opening in a conference in China, everyone
group. Can you advise?
Chris, you probably have more to share for the layman facilitator
cautiously and responsibly. It sounds like you are getting some sort
Paul Chung,
a layman SC Facilitator
a Tutor in Adult Education on Soft Skills
a NLP Coach & Consultant,
a NLPU Certififed Trainer & Consultant,
a Certified Enneagram Trainer & Mediator
Chris Walsh <chrisjwalsh@o...> »¡¡G
Trish it still appears that you are approaching this work
as a representative.
Lots of ongoing exposure to the work with plenty of experience
Exposure to a number of different experienced practitioners, soour understanding and practice is not limited to one person's
Participation in peer supervision.like Virginia Satir, Carl Whittaker, Murray Bowen
Being open to feedback.
Reading not just constellation material but other stuff too
Reflecting on how Constellation theory applies to everydaylife, characters in movies, characters in novels
You want to have some idea if a representative is having aheart attack or a simple reaction to their role. We need to know how
Have backup from more qualified people when you run a workshop.It may be useful to have a psychiatrist or psychiatric nurse who is
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trish Ball
Hasta la vista
Chris Walsh
Website www.constellationflow.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:03 AMPerhaps
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Re: Responsibility and Liability
Dear Chris and Dan,
Thank you for your responses - I will not be actively on-line for a
few days as I am currently in the process of moving. I'll check
back for related messages once I'm settled. Chris, I re-read my
initial message and I now see why you thought I had personally
received advice from Bertold Ulsamer. Unfortunately for me, this
sage wisdom I spoke of was solely through his publications!
one day I can say differently...feels
I'll look forward to checking back in after a couple days. It
so much better to have connected with you. Thank you for thisgroup!
these
Trish
--- In ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chris Walsh"
<chrisjwalsh@o...> wrote:
Hi Dan & Trish,Even though
I for one, would be interested to hear this conversation online.
the details are different from place to place there are manyoverlapping
themes and issues here. I spent a lot of time thinking about
issues 2around
years ago and went to a lot of trouble preparing 4 articles
thisBertold
subject . I even got a number of people to review these articles.However I
never published them anywhere, because, despite my best efforts Ifelt they
wouldn't be helpful at the time. There just seem to be so manyissues around
this - many of which seem to be at cross purposes.safe
Suffice to say, that I really respect Trish's attitude - making a
environment etc. Some people -including those with professionaltraining -
can be a bit cavalier in this regard. I am really happy Trish,when I hear
you are receiving guidance from such a grounded teacher as
Ulsamer.Boston,
So I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours.Cohen
Hasta la vista
Chris Walsh
Website www.constellationflow.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Booth
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:13 AMfamiliar
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ConstellationTalk] Responsibility and Liability
Trish - I am a Constellation facilitator in Boston who is quite
with the licensing and liability issues in Massachusetts. Sincethese
concerns vary from state to state and country to country, perhapswe should
pursue our conversation off-line. If you are still around
I'd beaddressed
glad to offer you support in launching your practice.
Write me at Dan@h... If others want to see these concerns
Ballin the ConstellationTalk forum, speak up and we can stayon-line.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trish ;
areSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:13 PM
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Responsibility and Liability
Thank you all for your candor concerning non-psychologists who
trainingdrawn to this work; as am I. A psychologist with whom I trainedin
constellations told me that anyone can do this work, but itappears
some opinions on this matter may be less restrictive than others.I
have my first "presentation" (not yet a workshop) in 2 weeks andmy
concern is that I have not the professional (therapeutic)
itof others, i.e., psychologists/therapists.experience
However, I am encouraged by the idea that destiny leads us to do
what we will, and I simply can't set this work aside without
attempting to find my place. I have had preliminary training in
Boston but not to any comparative extent with the qualifications
listed among other professionals. I devour reading materials and
all that I can find on the net. I also believe that life
and desire play their part so I am, as I said, encouraged.for
Could you say something, or direct me to links, which address
responsibility and liability toward providing a safe atmosphere
clients? I have derived so much wisdom from Bertold Ulsamer onthis
topic, and I'm certain many of you have valuable input as well.It
certainly relieves me to know this work will find its ownmy
resolution, but I want to be prepared and responsible insofar as
contribution to that end.Bert
Finally, I read on the posting site a section which referred to
Hellinger stating that if this work stays in the medical field,
thiswill die. Do you know where I may find further writing on this
issue? I would appreciate any direction and reinforcements at
Service.very early stage.
Many thanks!
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