[ddots-l] First Impression on Windows 10

  • From: Chi Kim <chigookkim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: midimag-ex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 13:51:25 -0500

Hi All,

Sorry for the cross posting, but I thought I'd just write about my experience with Windows 10.

Obviously I cannot speak for all the setup with Windows 10, and someone might have different experience even with the same setup. I'm sure as more adventurous people try Windows 10, we'll have better picture and workarounds. Anyways, this was my setup for testing.

2015 MacBook Pro running Windows 10 on Bootcamp.

Sonar 8.5

Cake talking 8.8

Sibelius 5.25

Jaws 16 and 17

First, here's the story for Sonar with Cake talking.
In short, if you are a pro user who uses a lot of plugins and HSC, it's a probably good idea not to update unless you have a backup and want to experiment.

After changing resolution, DPI, even copying and pasting classic theme from Windows 7, CT fails to jump to a lot of controls for tracks. You can however, move to different controls using cursors. Jaws 16 was little better, but not much.

Also, I couldn't activate a lot of buttons on plugins like browser buttons on dimension or session drummer. However, you can use preset button and load the patch file.

If you want to be able to load up some patches and just sequence, and you don't mind using cursors, it's definitely doable.
However, if you tweak a lot of plugin settings and rely on a lot of hsc for third party plugins, it's not going to be fun.

Sibelius

I ran Sibelius in windows 7 compatibility mode, and it was a lot better than Sonar.

The major obstacle was that the script wasn't able to fix the overlapping windows.

If you keep pressing ctrl+shift+f1, it'll keep trying and eventually say tool has been fixed. However, when you actually try to navigate, it'll still complain about the overlapping windows again though.

The good news is that if a sighted person resizes the windows like playback and properties, it starts working.

The script seems little sluggish, but it works. For example, when you press right arrow, you'll sometimes hear a ding instead of moving to next note. If you press right arrow again, it'll work. It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen once in a while.

It reads chord symbols, dynamic marks, lines, everything else I tried. It's just little slow but manageable.

For a lot of people buying new computers, Windows 10 will be unavoidable. Even if you manually install Windows 7, you’ll have a lot of headache with Windows 7 not being able to support newer motherboard during the Windows installation. If you have a lot of experience installing Windows 7 with loading drivers and tweaking Windows image, you definitely can, but it’s not going to be fun for many people who don’t have the knowledge.

Lastly if you have the latest mac, Windows 7 seems out of option. I tried many different methods such as downgrading to Yosemite, running the initial Windows 7 setup on bootcamp partition using VMware, changing the partition scheme, loaded custom boot loader, restore Winclone image of Windows 7, and so on. any of the combinations won't even start the boot up process. It seemed They blocked it from the BIOS.

Lastly, Microsoft nailed coffin on Windows 7 for future Intel CPU including Skylake. Even for people who already have a setup that works, this is something to think about when you want to upgrade your system in the future.


Chi

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