A little confused here Kevin. I think this is what you are talking about. If it's not, please let us know.
To Import Material from Another Project list of 9 items 1. Open the source project, 2. In the Track view, select the material you want to import. 3. control+C to display the Copy dialog box.4. Make sure that Events in Tracks is checked. If you don't want to import tempo changes, meter/key changes, or markers, uncheck those options. Click OK.
5. Open the target project,6. Set the Now time and current track to indicate where the material should be placed.
7. Choose Edit-Paste to display the Paste dialog box.8. Check Paste to One Track if you want all material imported into the current track (not recommended if you're importing both MIDI and audio data).
9. Click OK. list end HF----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Reeves" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: General Sonar feature requests. Hey guys. Thanks for your thoughts so far on this topic. Regarding importing tracks, everyone has mentioned copy and paste. If you guys had used P T and used the import tracks feature, you would see how easy and uneventful it is to do so, and you would be as agitated as I am to no longer be able to do that. You'd be hemming and hawing each step of the way as you reconstruct your session track by track. Regarding sfz, I understand that you guys appreciate the fact that being able to edit a text file to get your samples constructed is completely accessible. But come on. You can't tell me that that is not the most nerdy and unmusical way to work. I agree with Gord in that someone should develop a simple editor where you import your audio, select your ranges and velocities, etc, and it creates the sfz for you. I have 0 time to sit and learn how to write this out in a text file. I will say, however, I do appreciate the ease of use in being able to load in a bunch of 1shots into session drummer. That completely rocks. Why not just incorporate that same type of interface into the sfz player so we can make actual multisampled instruments. As far as the cakewalk forums, I will be posting this stuff. My reasoning for posting it here first is that I wanted to just open some dialogue on this and see what people thought. Reeves -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:11 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: General Sonar feature requests. Hi, firstly, why don't you raise these points with cakewalk? You could post them on the cakewalk forum and/or send a feature request to cakewalk by email. I am however by no means saying that your comments aren't interesting and appreciated; I merely am explaining that you will probably get more results if you contact cakewalk yourself. While I can certainly see the benefits of the first two points you outline, I have to disagree with you about sFZ which has been a godsend. Please don't advise Cakewalk to abandon the supporting of this format. If you would prefer them to keep sfZ but integrate another sample player and editer then fine. On 11/03/2009, Gordon Kent <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello: I agree with you about the first two points, but the sfz format is really wonderful, especially for us. I can't imagine a better way for us to set up the intricacies of creating a sampled instrument, such as key mapping, velocity zones, etc. Any software sampling environment that is not text based is going to be graphical in order to achieve this. I do agree though that cakewalk could probably develop a dedicated editor that would work with asio drivers so that we could
audition changes as we make them.
And I agree about the drum map manager. You can copy and paste material from one project to another, and include tempo changes and
automation etc.
but if you have soft synths in your track trhey would not be automatically inserted. For now, you do need to firest set up the tracks you want to copy as a track template, import it into your new project, then copy the actual data to these newly imported tracks. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Reeves To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:58 AM Subject: [ddots-l] General Sonar feature requests. Hey folks. Due to the nature of Dancing Dots, I know that there are a few folks on this list who work closely with Cakewalk developers. I have a couple of general feature requests for Sonar itself that are apart from accessibility needs. I want to throw this out there and start some dialog, eventually hoping to get this into the hands of
Cakewalk themselves.
1. Importing tracks from another project. Pro tools has been able to do this forever. Essentially, you can select the project you want to import from, select what tracks you want, and select what attributes such as tempo map, plugins, audio, markers, etc. It really blows having to reconstruct a project from the ground up if I'm needing to change any work flows such as adding my new drum library. I've created a sonar template with the library in the synth rack and all it's respective tracks in place and named. I now have to go back and paste in piano and vocal tracks from an old session so that I can lay the new drums. I shouldn't have to do that. I should be able to just import them all in 1 fell swoop with all my tempos, plugins, etc ready to roll. I guess I could export them all as a track template and then import that cwx file into the new session, but again, that is a step I shouldn't have to do. I'm curious as to why
Cakewalk didn't include this. It's so basic.
2. Ability to select keys using the keyboard in the drum map manager. Ok. this one is just plain ridiculous. I had an idea to do some major remapping of a drum softsynth. However, I found that when in the drum map manager, there is absolutely no way to tap keys on your keyboard and input the notes into the in and out note boxes. Are you kidding me? So you're saying that I have to actually know what the note numbers are? I don't have that kind of time. They've made it wonderfully easy to choose notes with the keyboard in so many other dialogues such as the metronome and event filter select. Why not the drum map manager? It just makes it seem so archaic putting in numbers
instead of note names.
3. Can we please ditch SFZ as a sample format? Pro Tools has Structure, logic has EXS 24. Can we please have a sample format that is actually in the 21st century? There's no easy way to actually construct instruments without either laying down tons of money for one of these sample converters, or burning a ton of time up editing a text file instead of being creative. Even if cakewalk went with one of Roland's formats, I'd be satisfied. I don't know about you, but building an instrument by writing or editing a text file sounds like work for Commander Data rather than a creative artist. I'm not trying to sound harsh with any of these feature requests, but I do get extremely irritated when things that should be simple and not hinder the creative process are complicated and end up doing so. Having messed with several recording platforms, I am now convinced that because of the nature of why we record and the motivation behind working with these tools, the learning curve should be as low as possible. Not because anyone is dumb or slow, but because we as musicians are pulled by the currents of creativity and if we have to edit a text file, or look on line for a midi chart just to change some notes around in a drumkit, the creative tide will soon go out and so much for getting that idea down. One of the things that I have appreciated about my switch to sonar was the fact that in some ways, there is almost 0 learning curve. I literally bought Cake Talking, and was in a session that next week putting together sequences for my casino duo. I didn't have time to get nerdy. I needed to get busy. So my conquest as a musician, consultant, teacher, artist, learner, etc, is
to find ways to make this stuff so easy that anything left brained is kept to a bare minimum.
Obviously, you have to have a somewhat strong knowledge of computers and how the whole concept of digital recording works. I'm not expecting things to be easy in a hand holding sort of way where people
don't learn and grow.
However, I do expect developers of creative tools to take extra consideration when implementing technology to aid in the creative process. We should be creating, not geeking out. Simple as that. You're thoughts?
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