[ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder

  • From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:12:25 -0400

not sure. i've just read on it and heard some demos on youtube.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Annabelle Susan Morison 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:10 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder


  I can't say that I've heard of it. What is it like?



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  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Omar Binno
  Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:46 PM
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder


  are you familiar with the sennheiser vsm201 vocoder? People seem to rant and 
rave about that. It's an older unit, and is discontinued now.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bryan Smart 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:41 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder


    I heard it, and it didn't sound that great to me. The sibilance  processing 
seemed bad. Kind of like the Motif's vocoder.

    Bryan

    -----Original Message-----
    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Omar Binno
    Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:22 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder

    a great hardware vocoder is the roland vp550 keyboard.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mactivity Productions Staff <mailto:mactivitypro@xxxxxxxxx>  
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:18 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder

    Hey Bryan,

    I agree... I use hardware rather than software for my talkbox sound!

    Rinn
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:07 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder


    Sorry, but I've never heard a vocoder plug in that sounds nearly as good as 
    hardware, and I've heard at least half a dozen attempts. It isn't that 
    software couldn't do it, but, everyone that I've heard try so far, doesn't 
    know what they're doing. In fact, most hardware vocoders are poor quality.

    You won't get a talkbox sound out of a plug in, or out of a hardware 
effects 
    box. It is possible to model the resonances of your mouth and throat with 
    software, but it isn't possible to just listen to you talk with a 
microphone 
    and map those on to a sound accurately. When people attempt to do that, it 
    is a vocoder, and, as you can hear, it doesn't sound the same.

    Basically, you can't do this stuff with a computer. You need to buy 
    equipment.

    For a vocoder, if you want a bright shimmery sound, get an Electrix Warp 
    Factory (no longer being made). If you want the classic robot sound, then 
    you're out of luck. The only new stuff that does that is cheesy. You'll 
need 
    to find something used, and it will probably be from about 25 years ago.

    For talkboxes, there are models that combine with an amplifier, and there 
    are all-in-one units. If you want the loud distorted talkbox sound (Living 
    on a Prayer, Do You Feell Like I Do), then the Rocktron Banshee is a 
    self-contained device that works like a guitar pedal that will do this. If 
    you want a soft talkbox sound (Roger Troutman, Stevie Wonder), then you 
need 
    a Heil talkbox with a separate amp. You can use the Banshee to do both, but 
    the Banshee is too high powered to do the soft stuff very well. It will 
    nearly vibrate your teeth out and blow your head off if you turn it up far 
    enough.

    Vocal effects are a strong area of interest for me. I've tried everything 
to 
    get good results with a computer and plug ins, but it just isn't happening 
    yet. You still need hardware. That's why I still have a Banshee and a 
    VoiceLive 2.

    Bryan

    -----Original Message-----
    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
    Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
    Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 12:17 AM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder

    I already have a keyboard, I'm looking for a plugin.

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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
    Behalf Of Darren H
    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:13 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder


    Hi.

    If you have the cash and don't mind having a keyboard instead of a plugin, 
    look on Ebay for the Roland VP-550.

    Do a Google search like this...

    site:youtube.com roland VP-550

    Just enter the above into the Google search and it'll only bring back 
    Youtube results.

    Cheers
    Darren

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 5:06 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Looking For a Vocoder

    Hi, it's Annabelle.
    I'm wondering, where can I find a vocoder like Sonovox? Is it available in 
a 
    software version? What about the kind that sounds like the Talkbox?

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