[ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder
- From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:07:48 -0400
Sorry, but I've never heard a vocoder plug in that sounds nearly as good as
hardware, and I've heard at least half a dozen attempts. It isn't that software
couldn't do it, but, everyone that I've heard try so far, doesn't know what
they're doing. In fact, most hardware vocoders are poor quality.
You won't get a talkbox sound out of a plug in, or out of a hardware effects
box. It is possible to model the resonances of your mouth and throat with
software, but it isn't possible to just listen to you talk with a microphone
and map those on to a sound accurately. When people attempt to do that, it is a
vocoder, and, as you can hear, it doesn't sound the same.
Basically, you can't do this stuff with a computer. You need to buy equipment.
For a vocoder, if you want a bright shimmery sound, get an Electrix Warp
Factory (no longer being made). If you want the classic robot sound, then
you're out of luck. The only new stuff that does that is cheesy. You'll need to
find something used, and it will probably be from about 25 years ago.
For talkboxes, there are models that combine with an amplifier, and there are
all-in-one units. If you want the loud distorted talkbox sound (Living on a
Prayer, Do You Feell Like I Do), then the Rocktron Banshee is a self-contained
device that works like a guitar pedal that will do this. If you want a soft
talkbox sound (Roger Troutman, Stevie Wonder), then you need a Heil talkbox
with a separate amp. You can use the Banshee to do both, but the Banshee is too
high powered to do the soft stuff very well. It will nearly vibrate your teeth
out and blow your head off if you turn it up far enough.
Vocal effects are a strong area of interest for me. I've tried everything to
get good results with a computer and plug ins, but it just isn't happening yet.
You still need hardware. That's why I still have a Banshee and a VoiceLive 2.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 12:17 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder
I already have a keyboard, I'm looking for a plugin.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Darren H
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:13 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Looking For a Vocoder
Hi.
If you have the cash and don't mind having a keyboard instead of a plugin, look
on Ebay for the Roland VP-550.
Do a Google search like this...
site:youtube.com roland VP-550
Just enter the above into the Google search and it'll only bring back Youtube
results.
Cheers
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----- Original Message -----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison <mailto:foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 5:06 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Looking For a Vocoder
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I'm wondering, where can I find a vocoder like Sonovox? Is it available
in a software version? What about the kind that sounds like the Talkbox?
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