[ddots-l] Re: Sonar: Working wiht Audio Tracks of Different Lengths

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:27:32 +0100

Hi Phil,

 

The following is Extracted from Sonar 8's Help files.

 

George.

 

 

 

Using the Edit-Apply Trimming command permanently deletes any data
from a selected clip that is hidden by a slip editing edit

For step-by-step instructions, see To Permanently Delete Slip-edited
Data <mk:@MSITStore:D:\SONAR.CHM::/Arranging43.html#1472254> . (Which
is at the end of the next bit)

 

 

Using Slip-editing 

________________________________

SONAR makes it easy to edit audio and MIDI clips by way of prominent
clip handles that appear as your cursor comes close to the edges of
clips. The clip handles are easy to see and are equipped with broad
functionality for fade-ins, fade-outs, and crossfades, as well as
non-destructive editing of the beginning and end of clips. 

To Slip-edit a Clip 

1.      Set the Snap to Grid  to an appropriate interval. 

2.      If you're slip editing an audio clip, right-click the clip to
open the Clip Properties dialog. Select the Audio Stretching tab, make
sure the Enable Looping checkbox is unchecked, and click OK. 

3.      Move the cursor over the beginning of the clip until the clip
handle appears. 

.  

A. Clip handle

4.      Click and drag the clip handle until the unwanted information
has been removed. 

 

The hidden information in the slip-edited clips remains intact but is
not heard during playback. 

To Move Data Without Moving its Clip 

1.      Hold down Alt+Shift while moving the cursor over the middle of
the clip you wish to edit. 

The cursor changes to look like this  . 

 

2.      Click and drag the clip to the left or right as desired. 

 

As in the case of slip-editing, the hidden information in the clip
remains intact but is not heard during playback. 

To Move Data and the Clip Edge 

1.      Hold down Alt+Shift and move the cursor to the edge of the
clip you wish to edit. 

A clip handle appears at the edge of the clip you are editing. 

 

2.      Click and drag the edge of the clip to the desired location. 

 

The hidden information in the clip remains intact but is not heard
during playback. 

To Permanently Delete Slip-edited Data 

1.      Select the clips that contain the slip-edited data you want to
delete. 

2.      Select the Edit-Apply Trimming command. 

SONAR permanently deletes the slip-edited data from the clips you
selected. 

 

 

From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: 22 May 2009 14:46
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar: Working wiht Audio Tracks of Different
Lengths

 

Waw!  Your right!  You learn something new every day.  Hmm, wonder
what "apply Trimming" is for then?


Regards, Phil Muir
 
P J Muir Productions,
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        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: luis elorza <mailto:luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx>  

        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:20 PM

        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar: Working wiht Audio Tracks of
Different Lengths

         

        i disagree Phil.

        when bouncing the clip it is automatically trimmed.

         

                ----- Original Message ----- 

                From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  

                To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

                Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:47 AM

                Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar: Working wiht Audio
Tracks of Different Lengths

                 

                Luis wrote: 

                I differ on this one Phil. when you use the bounce to
clips you don't need to apply trimming. 

                 

                Phil replied: you don't but, if you don't use the
"apply trimming" command then although you will end up with a single
clip, the clip will still be large because all of your edits will
still be contained within the clip, even though you can't hear them
any more.

                 

                 

                Luis wrote: and if you bounce to clips even after
applying trimming the result will always be a single clip.

                 

                Phil replied: indeed and because you have used the
"apply Trimming" command, the single clip per track will be smaller.
                Regards, Phil Muir
                 
                P J Muir Productions,
                Music And Audio Production
                Telephone: US (615) 713-2021  
                UK+44-1747-821-794
                Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
                E-mail:
                info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
                URL:
                www.philmuir.com/ 

                        ----- Original Message ----- 

                        From: luis elorza
<mailto:luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx>  

                        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

                        Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:11 AM

                        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar: Working wiht
Audio Tracks of Different Lengths

                         

                        i differ on this one Phil. when you use the
bounce to clips you don't need to apply trimming. 

                        and if you bounce to clips even after applying
trimming the result will always be a single clip.

                         

                                ----- Original Message ----- 

                                From: Phil Muir
<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  

                                To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

                                Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:08 PM

                                Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar: Working
wiht Audio Tracks of Different Lengths

                                 

                                It will however, remember to use the
"apply Trimming" command in the edit menu before bouncing to clips.
Other wise you won't have cut down the original length of the wave
files.  In other words, the original edits will still be there but,
you won't be able to hear them.

                                
                                Regards, Phil Muir
                                 
                                P J Muir Productions,
                                Music And Audio Production
                                Telephone: US (615) 713-2021  
                                UK+44-1747-821-794
                                Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
                                E-mail:
                                info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
                                URL:
                                www.philmuir.com/

                
                
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