[ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc sets not working etc.
- From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:02:27 -0400
Well for a normal computer that might not be such an issue, but depending on
how much Cameron paid for the system and for the use he's going to give it,
it could be a problem. The 860 is not necessarily better than the 920 from
the point of view that 860 is a bit faster, but in terms of performance on
the chipset itself, the memory issues, and the future of the system, the 920
would be a better bet. For example, the new i7 extreme 980 will only work on
a 1366 socket, don't think Intel has plans to make an 1156 equivalent.
There's also the i9, due some time soon, which has 6 cores (12 to the OS if
they leave HTT enabled), will only work on 1366 (as of now at least). As
with all Intel products though, the superior processors are going to in some
cases give you that better compatibility. In this case is not so much the
processor as it is the chipset. But then again, not everybody needs triple
channel memory and all the works, so Intel made the 800 series on various
chipsets for more budget systems, and the i5 as well as i3 for mobile
platforms. They all work fine, it all depends what the user will be doing
with the system and what they want to do in the future.
That's why as those who have had systems built or put together by me know,
before I do anything and make quotes etc, I sit there and ask the client
what all he or she might think they'll be doing with the system and what
they expect to be doing with this system or in general say a year or 2 from
now. This helps find the best system and the best combination of parts.
Finally, you have to know that just because a system is built with the parts
that seem to work, it doesn't mean it will. What I mean is that you have to
look at a lot of things, a lot of x58 boards for example cut corners here
and there and some are not truly triple channel memory, (if they are they
are limited to 3/6/12gb only). But because people assume that they are
following the implementations of the chipset manufacturer, they think it'll
work as expected, but in reality it won't. Same thing goes for things like
memory speeds, where a lot of systems get there by overclocking; as good as
overclocking may be for a gaming/media center system, for a system like a
daw where audio requires the most real-time processing you can get,
overclocking and it's occasional instabilities and/or glitches can cause
issues down the line. This is why we (system builders) test so many
configurations and have a limited range of boards we use, because we know
what companies are "trustworthy" and even then, which models and model lines
can be used. This still changes from time to time, that's why testing never
ends... This is the reason why most people choose to have us build for them,
we spend time researching and messing around with boards and chipsets and
bios settings etc, so that all you have to do is plug and play!
HTH, D!J!X!
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Vince Mistretta
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:45 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
So of of the older chipsets is the X58 the better one because of the 3
channel memory and full use of the DDR3 chips? Guess you are also saying
the original I7 920 would be better than the i7 860 for this type of work.
Only reason why I'm asking is that I am looking at older I7 systems which
seem to be abundent at reasonable prices right now.
Get with me off list, please. I want to find out how that other thing is
doing.
Vince Mistretta
Cellular - 561-234-7631
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Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:59 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
You mean a p55 chipset? That means you have the i7 800 series in a 1156
socket perhaps. That chipset is ok, but not the best for audio work... Have
you done any bios update or something of that nature in the last few months?
D!J!X!
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:26 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Hi. the mobo is either a p52 or p54, I don't remember which, but I do know
it's sixty four bit compatible.
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:31 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Is this the i7 daw you were speaking of earlier? Knowing Scot from ADK,
they probably used a gigabye or intel mobo on it, there might be a driver
issue there.
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:28 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Hi. It's firewire. I have a TI firewire chipset and I turned off the 1394
network adaptor.
The Motu and the presonus were both firewire and I had no issues with
latency.
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:21 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Project mix uses USB or FireWire?
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:15 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Hi. I had it custom built by ADK and had no issues with it whatsoever when
I was using my Motu 896MKIII and then my presonus firebox. The problems
started when I got the project mix, but, when I got it working, it was
working fine for a while.
The only external things I use are my flat panel display, which is never on,
my Epson scanner, which is off unless I am using K1000, the project mix,
which is always on, and, the edirol 1x1 USB midi interface.
I only have one machine right now so I know I am going against well known
advice as I've got it hooked up to the net and I have avast and Microsoft
office installed. But, I've been doing that since I got the machine over a
year ago and that didn't cause any trouble.
I have automatic updates configured to tell me when updates are available,
but that's all.
Thanks,
Cameron.
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:08 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Did you build yourself? There's a bunch of different configuration issues
at the bios and windows level that I can think of that could be responsible
for that behaviour. What other software/hardware do you have
installed/running on there?
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:59 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Hi. seperat I believe. OS is windows xp pro 32 bit sp3.
I just did a system restore to the day before this started happening and the
issues with jaws not reading text fields in sonar is fixed. However, I am
still having this crazy soft synth latency issue. It happens with the
project mix midi ports and with my USB 1x1 midi interface. I just timed it
and it's exactly five seconds, even with just true pianos loaded. I have a
quad core I7 processor and three gigs of ram so the system should not be
taxed at all. Before I could have a project with a dozen soft synths loaded
at once and I had no latency issues.
Any idea what could be causing that?
Thanks,
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:53 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Is that video card built-in or separate? What OS?
D!J!X!
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 7:31 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc sets
not working etc.
Hello all. this is getting extremely frustrating. here's a recap in case
anyone missed this before.
About a week ago, I started seeing some major problems in Sonar 8.53. when
you go into any text field, jaws just says blank. For example, the go to
dialogue or insert tempo dialogue box. Also, when you go to layouts from
the view menu, instead of reading what the choices are, jaws just says
nothing selected.
When I try to use an hsc set, even when I check that the correct set is
active for dimension pro for example, whenever you do a hot spot command, it
starts to say what it is, like program browser for example, but then, jaws
is interrupted by a system sound and jaws then says windows cannot be
recognized.
Also, when you try to virtualize the screen in sonar, jaws only says no
text. I don't see anything with the jaws cursor in terms of error dialogue
boxes or other windows that should not be open etc.
Further to this, I am now having the same soft synth latency issue I was
having with the project mix external midi ports, even though I am now using
an E-mu 1x1 USB midi interface. this was working fine until this other
stuff started happening.
This is what I've done so far... I reinstalled the jaws video intercept,
ran a registry cleaner, reinstalled hsc, tried the latest versions of JSonar
as well as ct, and this evening, I uninstalled then reinstalled sonar,
updating it to 8.53 producer.
After all of that, nothing has changed. I am running out of options here.
When this started, I was working the night before in sonar and everything
was fine. and the next day, all of this started at once it seems. I did
not install anything new between those two days.
Any suggestions? Should I uninstall then reinstall jaws?
I can't do a reformat and reinstall of windows right now because I don't
have any sighted assistance around so am looking for any other things I
could try for now.
Also, I tried updating the NVDIA g force 9400 gt driver but according to the
update driver utility in the device manager, I have the current driver
already.
Thanks,
Cameron.
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