[ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc sets not working etc.
- From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:39:32 -0400
The good single proc ADK systems are X58 based. If someone calls and requests
something extreme budget, though, they have a lower end system that uses P55.
It isn't much of a price difference, though, and to me, isn't worth it.
Cameron, we can't give you direct support, since you purchased directly from
ADK, but they include lifetime tech support with their systems. If you're
having a problem, you should save yourself a lot of headaches, and call to ask
them what's up. At worst, they'll tell you that the ProjectMix doesn't work
with that chipset, or some other component, and save you a lot of frustration.
We've sold several ProjectMixes with their higher end X58 based systems, but,
as far as I can remember, never with one of the value systems. It is quite
possible that there is a compatibility problem with it. On the whole, though,
the ProjectMix is a very unpicky piece of audio kit. So far, I've successfully
used it on my Mac Pro (where it runs spectacularly), a little Shuttle Mini PC,
my MacBook Pro, and even a 5 year old Dell Latitude.
Give ADK a call. They have a good bit of experience with the ProjectMix.
They'll know what's up.
Bryan
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:02 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Well for a normal computer that might not be such an issue, but depending on
how much Cameron paid for the system and for the use he's going to give it, it
could be a problem. The 860 is not necessarily better than the 920 from the
point of view that 860 is a bit faster, but in terms of performance on the
chipset itself, the memory issues, and the future of the system, the 920 would
be a better bet. For example, the new i7 extreme 980 will only work on a 1366
socket, don't think Intel has plans to make an 1156 equivalent.
There's also the i9, due some time soon, which has 6 cores (12 to the OS if
they leave HTT enabled), will only work on 1366 (as of now at least). As with
all Intel products though, the superior processors are going to in some cases
give you that better compatibility. In this case is not so much the processor
as it is the chipset. But then again, not everybody needs triple channel memory
and all the works, so Intel made the 800 series on various chipsets for more
budget systems, and the i5 as well as i3 for mobile platforms. They all work
fine, it all depends what the user will be doing with the system and what they
want to do in the future.
That's why as those who have had systems built or put together by me know,
before I do anything and make quotes etc, I sit there and ask the client what
all he or she might think they'll be doing with the system and what they expect
to be doing with this system or in general say a year or 2 from now. This helps
find the best system and the best combination of parts.
Finally, you have to know that just because a system is built with the parts
that seem to work, it doesn't mean it will. What I mean is that you have to
look at a lot of things, a lot of x58 boards for example cut corners here and
there and some are not truly triple channel memory, (if they are they are
limited to 3/6/12gb only). But because people assume that they are following
the implementations of the chipset manufacturer, they think it'll work as
expected, but in reality it won't. Same thing goes for things like memory
speeds, where a lot of systems get there by overclocking; as good as
overclocking may be for a gaming/media center system, for a system like a daw
where audio requires the most real-time processing you can get, overclocking
and it's occasional instabilities and/or glitches can cause issues down the
line. This is why we (system builders) test so many configurations and have a
limited range of boards we use, because we know what companies are
"trustworthy" and even then, which models and model lines can be used. This
still changes from time to time, that's why testing never ends... This is the
reason why most people choose to have us build for them, we spend time
researching and messing around with boards and chipsets and bios settings etc,
so that all you have to do is plug and play!
HTH, D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Vince Mistretta
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:45 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
So of of the older chipsets is the X58 the better one because of the 3 channel
memory and full use of the DDR3 chips? Guess you are also saying the original
I7 920 would be better than the i7 860 for this type of work.
Only reason why I'm asking is that I am looking at older I7 systems which seem
to be abundent at reasonable prices right now.
Get with me off list, please. I want to find out how that other thing is doing.
Vince Mistretta
Cellular - 561-234-7631
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Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:59 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
You mean a p55 chipset? That means you have the i7 800 series in a 1156 socket
perhaps. That chipset is ok, but not the best for audio work... Have you done
any bios update or something of that nature in the last few months?
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:26 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Hi. the mobo is either a p52 or p54, I don't remember which, but I do know
it's sixty four bit compatible.
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:31 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Is this the i7 daw you were speaking of earlier? Knowing Scot from ADK, they
probably used a gigabye or intel mobo on it, there might be a driver issue
there.
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:28 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Hi. It's firewire. I have a TI firewire chipset and I turned off the 1394
network adaptor.
The Motu and the presonus were both firewire and I had no issues with latency.
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:21 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Project mix uses USB or FireWire?
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:15 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Hi. I had it custom built by ADK and had no issues with it whatsoever when I
was using my Motu 896MKIII and then my presonus firebox. The problems started
when I got the project mix, but, when I got it working, it was working fine for
a while.
The only external things I use are my flat panel display, which is never on, my
Epson scanner, which is off unless I am using K1000, the project mix, which is
always on, and, the edirol 1x1 USB midi interface.
I only have one machine right now so I know I am going against well known
advice as I've got it hooked up to the net and I have avast and Microsoft
office installed. But, I've been doing that since I got the machine over a
year ago and that didn't cause any trouble.
I have automatic updates configured to tell me when updates are available, but
that's all.
Thanks,
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:08 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Did you build yourself? There's a bunch of different configuration issues at
the bios and windows level that I can think of that could be responsible for
that behaviour. What other software/hardware do you have installed/running on
there?
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:59 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Hi. seperat I believe. OS is windows xp pro 32 bit sp3.
I just did a system restore to the day before this started happening and the
issues with jaws not reading text fields in sonar is fixed. However, I am
still having this crazy soft synth latency issue. It happens with the project
mix midi ports and with my USB 1x1 midi interface. I just timed it and it's
exactly five seconds, even with just true pianos loaded. I have a quad core I7
processor and three gigs of ram so the system should not be taxed at all.
Before I could have a project with a dozen soft synths loaded at once and I had
no latency issues.
Any idea what could be causing that?
Thanks,
Cameron.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:53 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc
sets not working etc.
Is that video card built-in or separate? What OS?
D!J!X!
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cameron
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 7:31 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Still no solution to sonar/jaws blank fields and hsc sets
not working etc.
Hello all. this is getting extremely frustrating. here's a recap in case
anyone missed this before.
About a week ago, I started seeing some major problems in Sonar 8.53. when you
go into any text field, jaws just says blank. For example, the go to dialogue
or insert tempo dialogue box. Also, when you go to layouts from the view menu,
instead of reading what the choices are, jaws just says nothing selected.
When I try to use an hsc set, even when I check that the correct set is active
for dimension pro for example, whenever you do a hot spot command, it starts to
say what it is, like program browser for example, but then, jaws is interrupted
by a system sound and jaws then says windows cannot be recognized.
Also, when you try to virtualize the screen in sonar, jaws only says no text.
I don't see anything with the jaws cursor in terms of error dialogue boxes or
other windows that should not be open etc.
Further to this, I am now having the same soft synth latency issue I was having
with the project mix external midi ports, even though I am now using an E-mu
1x1 USB midi interface. this was working fine until this other stuff started
happening.
This is what I've done so far... I reinstalled the jaws video intercept, ran a
registry cleaner, reinstalled hsc, tried the latest versions of JSonar as well
as ct, and this evening, I uninstalled then reinstalled sonar, updating it to
8.53 producer.
After all of that, nothing has changed. I am running out of options here.
When this started, I was working the night before in sonar and everything was
fine. and the next day, all of this started at once it seems. I did not
install anything new between those two days.
Any suggestions? Should I uninstall then reinstall jaws?
I can't do a reformat and reinstall of windows right now because I don't have
any sighted assistance around so am looking for any other things I could try
for now.
Also, I tried updating the NVDIA g force 9400 gt driver but according to the
update driver utility in the device manager, I have the current driver already.
Thanks,
Cameron.
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