Is this a clean windows install? Meaning are you using an original clean installer? Or is it a restore disc, or a manufacturer provided disc? Those are never "clean" installations. You should be able to clean install windows 7 sp1, install Sonar 8.5.3 and CT, and run it with no crashes. You are more than likely to get a crash with updates if that's the case. I run my DAW offline with no windows updates except for dot net 4.5.1 (offline installed) and I've never had problems with apps crashing or issues with sonar. HTH, D!J!X! -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manny Rivas Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 1:37 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 7 operating system questions Well, the question is because I want to install sonar and kick talking but I've been getting a app crash bar long and I reinstalled windows and want to know if it is safe to reinstall an updated machine and look at me this problem anymore. Manny, sent from my iPhone 5s > On Mar 14, 2015, at 10:00 AM, D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Phil, it only happens with certain hardware, usually not a problem > for a custom built daw, but not the same case for an off the shelf > machine. For the macs, Windows drivers are usually not updated from > windows updates, as those mainly come from bootcamp. > > HTh, D!J!X! > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 11:49 AM > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 7 operating system questions > > Must have been fortunate here then using the Mac Book Pro as have > continued to update and not experienced any issues with latency, smile. > > > > Regards, Phil Muir > Accessibility Training > Telephone: UK+44-1747-228-459 > Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 > E-mail: > info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > URL: > www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ > Twitter: > @demuirs > Sound Cloud: > http://www.soundcloud.com/demuirs > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X! > Sent: 14 March 2015 02:57 > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 7 operating system questions > > Actually, that depends. Is your daw online, meaning used for the web, > or not? > Some windows updates for certain hardware cause latency habbic. > > HTH, D!J!X! > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manny Rivas > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:54 PM > To: Dancing Dots > Subject: [ddots-l] Windows 7 operating system questions > > Hi everyone, I have a quick question when installing into a fresh > operating system does the operating system need to be updated to the > latest and then continuing with the installation of sonar and then > cake talking? 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