Chris. Valhalla has a custom presets list that is unique to their products and
we would need to create HSC access to that as it's totally separate to Sonar's
presets list.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 4:44 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
Ok, so if we can access the parameters through
our typical alternate methods in our DAW, why not
just spot the preset load/save/compare buttons?
That is, if the auditioning of presets is the
only thing we can't really access through other
means. Sorry if I'm assuming too much or missing the point.
At 11:36 AM 12/7/2015, you wrote:
Ok Chris and Phil. I did the Valhalla Vintage
Verb as an experiment...and the experiment
being, using OCR to read specific fields.
So, in the plug, you can't read anything with
Jaws, well I can't here anyway, but OCR gives
excellent results and virtually 100% accurate readings.
Anyway, jim and myself did a feature where HSC
can read only a specified area of the screen,
like a freq value etc, and the OCR was so quick
when reading such a small area,, it didn't have
any impact at all really. So, 1 press of a
keystroke would take you to the mix control for
example, and a double press would read that
value. It also would automatically read preset names etc etc etc.
I know what can be accessed in the track
inspector, and the only other stuff you can't
access there is the presets...but like I say,
this was a plug used as an experiment to see if
OCR could be utilised in environments where
nothing could be read. Like the NI service
center. If OCR could reliably read specific
fields, then this sort of environment wouldn't be a barrier.
The result was that in this plug, it worked
fantastically well and made a totally
inaccessible environment, accessible to the
point you could read values and interact with
the GUI. Trouble was, this didn't extend across
other plugs I tried. It was hit and miss with
the OCR and what it could accuratly report, as I
guess the difference in how a GUI was designed
had too much of an impact. With certain fonts,
it would work great, with others, it was very poor.
So, the conclusion was not to include it in HSC
at this moment, not until OCR improved.
Although, I think the code is still there, it's
just commented out for the moment. This set
I've done accesses all the controls and has the
functionality to read any OCR results, but it no
longer has the associated code, plus it only was
done with the "80's" mode. Amending it for the
"70's" and "now" modes is an easy job, but it
was never done for the reasons above. If you
want it, you can have it, but it is incomplete. Best Steve.
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:54 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
I'd love sets for all their verbs. They're truly
excelent and $50 each. compare that to the prices
of verbs by Exponential Audio (Phoenix Verb for
example). Pick up Vintage Verb, Room, and the
recently-released Plate from Valhalla, and you may never need another reverb.
Sorry, I guess I really like their stuff. (grin)
Actually, is there much extra that we need access
to that isn't exposed in the inspector in Sonar, Reaper's parameter list etc.?
Chris
At 10:31 AM 12/7/2015, you wrote:
Also considering purchasing Valhalla vintage
verb or maybe one of the others. If I do
purchase it I will create an hsc set for it if
there isn̢۪t one available. Would be
interesting to know how many of you guys
would be interested in a set for the Valhalla vintage verb.
Kind regards
Len viljoen
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Steel
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 5:05 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
Cool sounds pretty easy.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Phil Muir
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 6:44 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
No it's very easy to do. Create all of the HSC
buttons. When creating them, don't choose right
click as an action. Choose "possition cursor"
instead. Once you have done that and added
tutor messages to them then you create a spot
ring and add the sets to it in the order you want them to appear.
On 7 December 2015 14:38:28 GMT+00:00, Greg
Steel <<mailto:steelgreg509@xxxxxxxxx>steelgreg509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey Phil is the tab order hard to make? I have
never had any programming experience but I did
creat an hsc set for the zampler plugin with the 4 buttons.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Phil Muir
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 2:09 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
Steve has a point. Giving each field a
keystroke is probably not the best wait to do
this. Probably better to set-up a fake tab
order and put a tutor message on each button in
the tab order. You would then have the button
name followed by the tutor message so it would sound like this.
E-mail address
Right click to enter your E-mail address and press enter
Password
Right click to enter your password and press enter
Serial number
Right click to paste in your serial number and press enter.
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From:
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[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 10:00 AM
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Center
Greg, I understand that, but how will you know
if youÂ’re in the correct field? Best Steve
From: <mailto:steelgreg509@xxxxxxxxx>Greg Steel
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:09 AM
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Center
Hey Steve I was thinking about having someone
put the mouse on the fields and I can write
paste in your serial number and enter your
email address and password on the fields and give them each a keystroke.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx>Steve S
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:28 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Center
Greg, making a set for the NI service center
would be possible, if OCR was reliable
enough. HSC does contain code to use OCR for
specific areas, as myself and Jim worked on it
a while ago. It worked flawlessly within the
Valhalla Vintage Verb UI, but it was flakey in other plugs.
OCR struggles with certain font etc, but if the
conditions are OK, it works great. I
havenÂ’t tried OCR in the service center,
but itÂ’s just a matter of creating a grid
kind of layout with OCR reading the fields.
Trouble is...and I agree with Jim here, is that
it isnÂ’t something he wants to use with HSC
until OCR is more consistent and reliable.
So, until such a time, the layout is possible,
but reading the fields isnÂ’t...and
thereÂ’s no way to know what item is in what field etc. best Steve.
From: <mailto:steelgreg509@xxxxxxxxx>Greg Steel
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:29 PM
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Center
Hey guys would it be possible to make an hsc
set so that we can use it without sighted help? I want to look in to it.
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