cool. well, that would be great to have access to.
At 12:54 PM 12/7/2015, you wrote:
Chris. Valhalla has a custom presets list that is unique to their products and we would need to create HSC access to that as it's totally separate to Sonar's presets list.
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 4:44 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
Ok, so if we can access the parameters through
our typical alternate methods in our DAW, why not
just spot the preset load/save/compare buttons?
That is, if the auditioning of presets is the
only thing we can't really access through other
means. Sorry if I'm assuming too much or missing the point.
At 11:36 AM 12/7/2015, you wrote:
>Ok Chris and Phil. I did the Valhalla Vintage
>Verb as an experiment...and the experiment
>being, using OCR to read specific fields.
>So, in the plug, you can't read anything with
>Jaws, well I can't here anyway, but OCR gives
>excellent results and virtually 100% accurate readings.
>Anyway, jim and myself did a feature where HSC
>can read only a specified area of the screen,
>like a freq value etc, and the OCR was so quick
>when reading such a small area,, it didn't have
>any impact at all really. So, 1 press of a
>keystroke would take you to the mix control for
>example, and a double press would read that
>value. It also would automatically read preset names etc etc etc.
>
>I know what can be accessed in the track
>inspector, and the only other stuff you can't
>access there is the presets...but like I say,
>this was a plug used as an experiment to see if
>OCR could be utilised in environments where
>nothing could be read. Like the NI service
>center. If OCR could reliably read specific
>fields, then this sort of environment wouldn't be a barrier.
>
>The result was that in this plug, it worked
>fantastically well and made a totally
>inaccessible environment, accessible to the
>point you could read values and interact with
>the GUI. Trouble was, this didn't extend across
>other plugs I tried. It was hit and miss with
>the OCR and what it could accuratly report, as I
>guess the difference in how a GUI was designed
>had too much of an impact. With certain fonts,
>it would work great, with others, it was very poor.
>
>So, the conclusion was not to include it in HSC
>at this moment, not until OCR improved.
>Although, I think the code is still there, it's
>just commented out for the moment. This set
>I've done accesses all the controls and has the
>functionality to read any OCR results, but it no
>longer has the associated code, plus it only was
>done with the "80's" mode. Amending it for the
>"70's" and "now" modes is an easy job, but it
>was never done for the reasons above. If you
>want it, you can have it, but it is incomplete. Best Steve.
>-----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart
>Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:54 PM
>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
>
>I'd love sets for all their verbs. They're truly
>excelent and $50 each. compare that to the prices
>of verbs by Exponential Audio (Phoenix Verb for
>example). Pick up Vintage Verb, Room, and the
>recently-released Plate from Valhalla, and you may never need another reverb.
>
>Sorry, I guess I really like their stuff. (grin)
>
>Actually, is there much extra that we need access
>to that isn't exposed in the inspector in Sonar, Reaper's parameter list etc.?
>
>Chris
>
>
>At 10:31 AM 12/7/2015, you wrote:
>>Also considering purchasing Valhalla vintage
>>verb or maybe one of the others. If I do
>>purchase it I will create an hsc set for it if
>>there isnât one available. Would be
>>interesting to know how many of you guys
>
>>would be interested in a set for the Valhalla vintage verb.
>>Kind regards
>>Len viljoen
>>
>>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Steel
>>Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 5:05 PM
>>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
>>
>>Cool sounds pretty easy.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Phil Muir
>>To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 6:44 AM
>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
>>
>>No it's very easy to do. Create all of the HSC
>>buttons. When creating them, don't choose right
>>click as an action. Choose "possition cursor"
>>instead. Once you have done that and added
>>tutor messages to them then you create a spot
>>ring and add the sets to it in the order you want them to appear.
>>On 7 December 2015 14:38:28 GMT+00:00, Greg
>>Steel <<mailto:steelgreg509@xxxxxxxxx>steelgreg509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>Hey Phil is the tab order hard to make? I have
>>never had any programming experience but I did
>>creat an hsc set for the zampler plugin with the 4 buttons.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Phil Muir
>>To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 2:09 AM
>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Centre
>>
>>Steve has a point. Giving each field a
>>keystroke is probably not the best wait to do
>>this. Probably better to set-up a fake tab
>>order and put a tutor message on each button in
>>the tab order. You would then have the button
>>name followed by the tutor message so it would sound like this.
>>
>>
>>E-mail address
>>
>>
>>Right click to enter your E-mail address and press enter
>>
>>
>>Password
>>
>>
>>Right click to enter your password and press enter
>>
>>
>>Serial number
>>
>>
>> Right click to paste in your serial number and press enter.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Regards, Phil Muir
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>>From:
>><mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S
>>Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 10:00 AM
>>To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Center
>>
>>
>>Greg, I understand that, but how will you know
>>if youÃâre in the correct field? eld? Best Steve
>>
>>From: <mailto:steelgreg509@xxxxxxxxx>Greg Steel
>>Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:09 AM
>>To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Center
>>
>>Hey Steve I was thinking about having someone
>>put the mouse on the fields and I can write
>>paste in your serial number and enter your
>>email address and password on the fields and give them each a keystroke.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx>Steve S
>>To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:28 PM
>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Center
>>
>>Greg, making a set for the NI service center
>>would be possible, if OCR was reliable
>>enough. HSC does contain code to use OCR for
>>specific areas, as myself and Jim worked on it
>>a while ago. It worked flawlessly within the
>>Valhalla Vintage Verb UI, but it was flakey in other plugs.
>>
>>OCR struggles with certain font etc, but if the
>>conditions are OK, it works great. I
>>havenÃât tried OCR in the service vice center,
>>but itÃâs just a matter of r of creating a grid
>>kind of layout with OCR reading the fields.
>>
>>Trouble is...and I agree with Jim here, is that
>>it isnÃât something he wants to s to use with HSC
>>until OCR is more consistent and reliable.
>>
>>So, until such a time, the layout is possible,
>>but reading the fields isnÃât...and
nd
>>thereÃâs no way to know what item item is in what field etc. best Steve.
>>
>>From: <mailto:steelgreg509@xxxxxxxxx>Greg Steel
>>Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:29 PM
>>To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [ddots-l] hsc set for the Native Instruments Service Center
>>
>>Hey guys would it be possible to make an hsc
>>set so that we can use it without sighted help? I want to look in to it.
>>
>>
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