[ddots-l] Re: sequencing sonar
- From: "William R. McCann" <BillList1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:56:25 -0400
Omar wrote:
> Sonar doesn't really do patterns the way an external synth does.
The Session Drummer feature in SONAR 6 Producer does provide a good number
of grooves and fills or 1 or 2 bar patterns which you can trigger with a
single key from your MIDI keyboard controller. Great for people like me who
are not, shall we say, the world's greatest builders of drum tracks. You
can also trigger the individual drum sounds which are excellent samples.
To upgrade to SONAR 6 Producer, go to
http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/cw-ad.htm and go to the heading that
says:
Upgrades to SONAR 6 Producer Edition.
Regards,
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Omar Binno
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:52 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sequencing sonar
Well, I usually start via midi, just because you have a bit more editing
flexibility, then I convert the midi tracks over to audio. I like to use 16
midi tracks, because that's how many tracks external sequencers on
synthesizers usually have. When doing this, track 10 is usually used for
drums by default. However, I like to separate my drums and play each drum on
an individual track. So, I'll use tracks 10-16 for drums. As far as I know,
Sonar doesn't really do patterns the way an external synth does. I'll just
record a basic number of bars with a kick for example, and then copy and
paste it for a couple hundred measures until I play more instruments. After
I play all my instrument parts, I'll then decide how i want the song laid
out, then I'll start deleting different parts for verse, chorus, fills, etc.
Omar Binno
My Space: www.myspace.com/omarbinno
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stacy Bleeks" <sbleeks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:38 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sequencing sonar
>
> I could go either way. I've mainly been using midi soft synths to create
> audio tracks and simple drum patterns etc.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:34 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sequencing sonar
>
>
>> lol We're all ignorant to some degree here, so don't feel bad. If you're
>> using Sonar 6, you're probably using the template that cake talking gives
>> you, which contains 2 midi and 2 audio tracks. Are you planning to start
>> first sequencing via midi, or are you starting right away with audio?
>>
>> Omar Binno
>>
>> My Space: www.myspace.com/omarbinno
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stacy Bleeks" <sbleeks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:26 AM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sequencing sonar
>>
>>
>>> Hi Omar-
>>> First, please forgive my ignorance especially on the technical side of
>>> things. I'll do my best to explain.
>>>
>>> Well...I'd like to have the flexibility to lay down a few tracks say 1
>>> drum track with kick drum and snare. 1 with high hats and ride cymbals.
>>> 1 with a bass line another with a synth line maybe another with a
>>> sampled audio sound for example. Ideally one track or point in the
>>> track would trigger the other and have each fit so that each part fit
>>> musically together to creat a pattern or even a melody. I'm probably a
>>> little off with the terminology here but without getting into the
>>> symantics of what I'm trying to say, I'm hoping you can catch what it is
>>> I'm trying to play.
>>>
>>> I guess in a way it would be creating a loopp. Although I'm hoping to
>>> have the parts of the pattern/ song automatically sequenced instead of
>>> what I'm doing now which is cutting and pasting all over the place to
>>> have the sounds fit where I want and imagine them to fall into place and
>>> then be effected etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm using an M-Audio Axiom midi keyboard controller as well as a little
>>> Boss Dr 202 midi groove station.
>>>
>>> I haven't used acid loops yet but have been cuttin up my own loops with
>>> Sonar, as well as a little boss Sp 202 samler and some old school tape
>>> looping and of course cutting and scratching loops in real time with my
>>> turntables.s.
>>>
>>> Just trying to make the pieces of this puzzle fit and having a good time
>>> with it.
>>>
>>> Stacy
>>> .
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:54 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: sequencing sonar
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can you be a little more specific on exactly what you're looking for?
>>>> Also, are you using any external synths for sounds?
>>>>
>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>
>>>> My Space: www.myspace.com/omarbinno
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Stacy Bleeks" <sbleeks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:50 PM
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] sequencing sonar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all-Does anyone have some simple tips on sequencing with Sonar? I
>>>>> have used a hardware sequencer in the past and was hoping sonar would
>>>>> be a littel more intuitive this way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just listened to Adrian aka Driza's motif tutorial and that is the
>>>>> type of sequencing I would like to be able to do.
>>>>> Thanks for the inspiration Driza and thanks in advance for any Sonar
>>>>> sequencing pointers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yeah, I'm using an M-Audio Axiom midi keyboard controller.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stacy
>>>>>
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