"Haddock" is actually one of the words they use as an example in the lesson books. If you have the fifth edition of the lessons, the example is on page 9-4. It is also shown in the Problem Words section at the end. The correct contraction usage is ha[dd]ock. Deb Hamilton Valley Braille Service, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JANE DEKORNE Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:09 AM To: 'duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [duxuser] Re: hadley and haddock I thought I was told that upper part of the cell would take priority over a choice using the lower part of the cell, so, if that were the case, it would be 456h, then dock. The word haddock would use 6 cells using either choice. Does anyone know what the Library of Congress would consider correct format for this word? I am a novice so am curious. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann.Foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:52 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: hadley and haddock Thanks, David. This, at least, makes sense to me. ANN FOXWORTH, BRAILLE CONSULTANT DARS/DBS CRISS COLE REHABILITATION CENTER 4800 N LAMAR AUSTIN, TX 78756 PH: 512-377-0471 -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Holladay Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:09 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: hadley and haddock And it is the same for BANA. I will try to be clear. "Haddock" offers the choice of 2 contractions: 1) "had" to 456 h (saving 1 character) 2) "dd" to dropped d (saving 1 character) So either choice saves the same, but choice 2 is considered "simpler" since the contraction is one braille character instead of two. Thus, we use the dropped d -- David Holladay Duxbury Systems At 04:45 AM 1/28/2011, you wrote: >British Braille 8.5.2 and 8.8.5 >Contraction for had may generally be used when the a is short unless >the preference rule directs otherwise. The preference rule 8.8.5 is >"Simple group signs should generally be preferred to composite >contractions provided their use does not waste space. >Regards >Diana > > > I entered these two words in Duxbury > > Hadley haddock > > > > Hadley used the had contraction but haddock did not. Can someone > > send me the rule about this? > > > > ANN FOXWORTH, BRAILLE CONSULTANT > > DARS/DBS > > CRISS COLE REHABILITATION CENTER > > 4800 N LAMAR > > AUSTIN, TX 78756 > > PH: 512-377-0471 > > > > > > >Diana Monahan >Moor End Technology College >Dryclough Road >Crosland Moor >Huddersfield >HD4 5JA > >Tel 01484 485475 > >* * * >* This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. >* To unsubscribe, send a blank message with >* unsubscribe >* as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also >* subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription >* options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive >* is also located there. >* Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com >* * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *