Deb and David, Thanks for that info. It is very helpful! -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deb Hamilton Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 11:23 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: hadley and haddock "Haddock" is actually one of the words they use as an example in the lesson books. If you have the fifth edition of the lessons, the example is on page 9-4. It is also shown in the Problem Words section at the end. The correct contraction usage is ha[dd]ock. Deb Hamilton Valley Braille Service, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JANE DEKORNE Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:09 AM To: 'duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [duxuser] Re: hadley and haddock I thought I was told that upper part of the cell would take priority over a choice using the lower part of the cell, so, if that were the case, it would be 456h, then dock. The word haddock would use 6 cells using either choice. Does anyone know what the Library of Congress would consider correct format for this word? I am a novice so am curious. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann.Foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:52 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: hadley and haddock Thanks, David. This, at least, makes sense to me. ANN FOXWORTH, BRAILLE CONSULTANT DARS/DBS CRISS COLE REHABILITATION CENTER 4800 N LAMAR AUSTIN, TX 78756 PH: 512-377-0471 -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Holladay Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:09 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: hadley and haddock And it is the same for BANA. I will try to be clear. "Haddock" offers the choice of 2 contractions: 1) "had" to 456 h (saving 1 character) 2) "dd" to dropped d (saving 1 character) So either choice saves the same, but choice 2 is considered "simpler" since the contraction is one braille character instead of two. Thus, we use the dropped d -- David Holladay Duxbury Systems At 04:45 AM 1/28/2011, you wrote: >British Braille 8.5.2 and 8.8.5 >Contraction for had may generally be used when the a is short unless >the preference rule directs otherwise. The preference rule 8.8.5 is >"Simple group signs should generally be preferred to composite >contractions provided their use does not waste space. >Regards >Diana > > > I entered these two words in Duxbury > > Hadley haddock > > > > Hadley used the had contraction but haddock did not. 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