[duxuser] Re: nemeth question - subtracting negative numbers

  • From: "Davey Hulse" <davey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:56:24 -0800

the Nemeth rules are finicky about how that double minus may be written and how 
then it should be written in Braille.

Look carefully at the font of the second minus sign.  Is it in any way 
superscripted?  More and more frequently negative numbers are showing up with 
that minus sign being in superscript.  In that case, the negative sign needs to 
be supered.  So, in Braille, the expression would be:
7-~-"1

with the tilde representing the superscript mark and the quote representing the 
baseline marker necessary to indicate that the superscript applied only to the 
minus sign.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anthony Tibbs 
  To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:45 AM
  Subject: [duxuser] Re: nemeth question - subtracting negative numbers


  Hi Katie,

  The person who indicated that you use only one subtraction symbol mustn't 
have realized that doing that would change the nature of the question.  
Mathetmatically speaking, 

  7 - -1 = ?

  is the same as 

  7 + 1 = ?

  You cannot "drop" one of the subtraction symbols, because it would change the 
nature of the question.  Instead, you would probably be best to Braille it as

  7 - (-1) = ?

  ... keeping both negative signs but putting the negative one in brackets.

  This is coming from someone who used Nemeth throughout high school and 
first-year university courses, but who has no official 'transcribers' training 
or anything of the sort.  I do know, however, that you can't just "drop" a 
negative sign in the Braille and retain the same meaning!

  Take care,
  Anthony



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