[ibis-macro] Re: BIRD 127.2 comments
- From: <radek_biernacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>, <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:13:16 -0600
Arpad,
The current text, by the construct "or, ... if they are reserved parameters"
implicitly applies this paragraph to the model specific parameters in addition
to the reserved parameters. You do not want to come back to this text again
once (and if) the usage InOut and Out is disallowed for the model specific
parameters. One way to fix it is as follows.
|* Note that the purpose of Usage Out or InOut is to provide a mechanism
|** for the Algorithmic Model to return values to the EDA tool to use these
|** values as specified by the IBIS-AMI specification and optionally to
|** report these values to the user.
Radek
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:51 PM
To: IBIS-ATM
Subject: [ibis-macro] BIRD 127.2 comments
Radek,
We discussed your first comment on BIRD 127.2 in the ATM
teleconference today. A question was raised whether we
had another BIRD which deals with the rules of Out and
InOut Model_Specific parameters of (Usage Info), specifying
that they can only be used for display or archiving purposes,
but not for giving directions to the EDA tool on what and
how to do things.
In the discussion I thought we did have a BIRD addressing
that topic, but now that I was trying to find it, I realized
that the BIRD I was thinking of is only in its draft state
on the ATM reflector:
http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20110613/arpadmuranyi/Out-InOut%20BIRD%20draft%2010/Out_InOut_BIRD_10.pdf
Anyway, the group requested that you should propose an alternate
wording for the paragraph which I believe your 1st comment is
talking about:
|* Note that the purpose of Usage Out or InOut is to provide a mechanism
|* for the Algorithmic Model to return a value to the EDA tool to either
|* report these values to the user, or to use these values as specified
|* by the IBIS-AMI specification if they are reserved parameters.
We didn't discuss your remaining comments, because it didn't
make sense for us to do so without you being present. In order
to help moving forward with those comments, I would like to
ask you to send specific quotes (not page numbers) so we can
find the text in question more easily, with suggestions on
how to change them.
Thanks,
Arpad
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:24 AM
To: michael.mirmak@xxxxxxxxx; ibis@xxxxxxx
Subject: [IBIS] RE: Agenda, IBIS Open Forum Teleconference for Sept. 16, 2011
Hi Michael,
I have got the following comments on the BIRDs scheduled for vote at the Open
Forum Teleconference on Sept. 16, 20011
First, I have a minor comment on
- BIRD139.1: Reserved_Parameters Order Ross
http://www.eda.org/ibis/birds/bird139.1.txt
The last two lines of the changed paragraph state that "Any text after the '|'
character will be ignored by the parser." It needs to be added how far the
ignored text extends.
Second, I have several important comments on
- BIRD127.2: IBIS-AMI Typographical Corrections Muranyi
http://www.eda.org/ibis/birds/bird127.2.txt
1. Bottom of page 1 - the text implicitly allows "Out" and "InOut" for model
specific parameters. I believe, that issue was extensively discussed in the ATM
group, with opposing views, but it has not been resolved yet. The last thing we
want is to introduce a new text that may require changes once the other issue
is resolved.
2. Pages 3, 7, 9 - references and examples relating to the 'Type' for the
format 'Table', particularly in the context of the first column, are in
conflict with the recently accepted BIRD132.
3. Top of page 5 - the exceptions are stated for the AMI_parameters_in only.
Thus it is still unstated that, for example, 'Reserved Parameters' branch must
be collapsed in AMI_parameters_out as well.
4. Page 6 - the text "is a either" should read "is either".
Best regards, Radek
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