Time: October 4, 2011 Noon US Pacific Time ===== Audio: ====== Voice dial-in: (800) 637-5822 International: +1 (647) 723-3937 <--- (For Canada) 0114501530 <--- (For Sweden) 0201400572 <--- (For Sweden Toll Free) 069509594672 <--- (For Germany) 08001014542 <--- (For Germany Toll free) Access Code: 685-0440 Web === Click Here to Join Live Meeting: http://tinyurl.com/yvmesj or: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sisoft/join?id=NKQQN3&role=attend&pw=TP8j%23-%25%7E5 Mentor Global Crossing Teleconference commands: http://www.globalcrossing.com/customer/collaboration/cust_ready_access_tips.aspx FIRST TIME USERS: To save time before the meeting, check your system to make sure it is compatible with Microsoft Office Live Meeting. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda ====== 1) Opens 2) Call for any related patent disclosures 3) Review of ARs: Arpad: Request alternate wording from Radek on his comments on BIRD 127.2 - done Radek: Provide alternate wording on your comments on BIRD 127.2 - not done Walter: Update BIRD 123.2.x with comments and send it to Mike L. to be posted on the ATM website - in progress Any other AR-s? Old ARs: Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries. - deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do Overview of BIRDs holding up the editorial work of IBIS v5.1: new Clarify sample_interval for IBIS-AMI - finalize text in ATM and submit to the Open Forum 127.2 IBIS-AMI Typographical Corrections - need to address Radek's comments 140 Format Corner and Range Clarification for IBIS-AMI - need to discuss content of BIRD 140.1 draft 143.1 Correcting the rules for AMI_Close - IBIS Open Forum needs to vote on it 4) Backchannel BIRD draft update (Ken) - discussion, questions, comments? 5) BIRD 127.2 (Arpad/Radek) - address Radek's comments from 9/16 1. Bottom of page 1 - the text implicitly allows "Out" and "InOut" for model specific parameters. I believe, that issue was extensively discussed in the ATM group, with opposing views, but it has not been resolved yet. The last thing we want is to introduce a new text that may require changes once the other issue is resolved. - Radek: Please provide an alternate text 2. Pages 3, 7, 9 - references and examples relating to the 'Type' for the format 'Table', particularly in the context of the first column, are in conflict with the recently accepted BIRD132. - Radek: Please point out exactly each of these issues 3. Top of page 5 - the exceptions are stated for the AMI_parameters_in only. Thus it is still unstated that, for example, 'Reserved Parameters' branch must be collapsed in AMI_parameters_out as well. - Radek: Please point out exactly the location of this issue 4. Page 6 - the text "is a either" should read "is either". - will fix this in the next version 5) BIRD 140.1 Corner Clarifications (Arpad) http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20110906/arpadmuranyi/BIRD%20140.1%20Format%20Corner%20and%20Range%20Clarification%20for%20IBIS-AMI%20draft/BIRD140_1.pdf - questions, comments? - vote to submit it to the IBIS Open Forum 6) New BIRD draft on Clarifying sample_interval for IBIS-AMI - finalize text in the draft http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20111003/arpadmuranyi/Solving%20the%20sample%20rate%20issue,%20proposal%202/SamplingRateBIRD_02.pdf 7) BIRD 123.2.5, jitter parameters (includes Row 37) (Walter) - review latest changes - do these changes answer the questions raised before: - remove Usage Out from the BIRD? or - specify which function (Init or GetWave) can return values? - specify what the EDA tool should do with the returned values? - what to do when Rx doesn't generate clocks? - specify how EDA tool can input the clocks? 8) BIRD 121.1, data management parameters (file support) (Walter) - discussion, questions, comments? 9) BIRD 122; Analog Buffer BIRD (Walter) - replaced with ISS_Buffer_BIRD.doc 10) BIRD 124.1, dependency table (Walter) - questions, comments? 11) Info, Out, InOut BIRD (Arpad) - latest wording includes "in order to be compliant with this specification, Model_Specific parameters ... must not ...", and omits the word "simulation" so it's meaning doesn't have to be defined - any comments, questions on this draft? 12) "Resolution" (Walter) - do not include 5.0 rule descriptions in the 5.1 specification Thanks, Arpad ===================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe