This may cause difficulties, but I do need to remind participants that vendor tool feature-set discussions should be conducted outside mailing lists like these. Being associated with a standards body, we need to be as vendor-neutral as possible. I realize that part of our discussions revolve around getting a sense of the industry and its needs. I would welcome any suggestions on how to discuss "what industry is doing" without citing specific tool, device or system vendors. - Michael Mirmak Intel Corp. Chair, EIA IBIS Open Forum -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 13:17 To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Comment on the minutes of the last meeting I don't think I am "authorized" to discuss their pricing, but there is an evaluation version on their web site that is FREE. Fully functional, only limited in the size of the models and/or circuits. http://www.dolphin-integration.com/ Arpad ======================================================= -----Original Message----- From: Lance Wang [mailto:lwang@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:54 PM To: twesterh@xxxxxxxxxx; Muranyi, Arpad; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Re: Comment on the minutes of the last meeting Could you share how much it will cost? Thanks, Lance Wang Cadence Design Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Todd Westerhoff Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:50 PM To: arpad.muranyi@xxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Comment on the minutes of the last meeting I stand corrected. Todd ;-) Todd Westerhoff VP, Software Products SiSoft 6 Clock Tower Place, Suite 250 Maynard, MA 01754 (978) 461-0449 x24 twesterh@xxxxxxxxxx www.sisoft.com -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:49 PM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Comment on the minutes of the last meeting As I was reading the minutes of the last IBIS-ATM teleconference, I noticed this line: "Todd: Cadence prefers Verilog, Mentor prefers VHDL, others can't do both at all." I need to disagree, Todd. The tool from Dolphin, SMASH can cosimulate VHDL-AMS, Verilog-AMS and SPICE (plus their own language called ABCD, I believe), they can even be mixed within the same file... Arpad ======================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe