Dai, It is up to EDA tool how to apply these parameters. In bit-by-bit simulation, Tx_Jitter and DCD affect the input signal. In statistical analysis, Tx jitter/DCD should be included into the main algorithm: post-processing with Tx_Jitter or DCD could be inaccurate. Only Rx jitter can be added later by convolution. Vladimir From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dai, Xingdong (Xingdong) Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 8:47 AM To: gedlund@xxxxxxxxxx; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Tx_Jitter and Tx_DCD Greg. The jitters and noise are applied by EDA tools post-simulation. Thanks, -Dai From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gregory R Edlund Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 10:28 AM To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ibis-macro] Tx_Jitter and Tx_DCD I have a basic question about where Tx_Jitter and Tx_DCD are supposed to be applied during simulation: Is the EDA tool supposed to apply Tx_Jitter and Tx_DCD, or is that up to the algorithmic model? I was unable to find the answer in the following sections of IBIS 5.1. Maybe it's in another section that I missed. Section 10.2.3.2, Time Domain Simulation Reference Flow, page 161 Section 10.2.2, Time Domain Simulations, page 160 Section 10A, Reserved Parameters Reference, page 187 Greg Edlund Senior Engineer Signal Integrity and System Timing IBM Systems & Technology Group 3605 Hwy. 52 N Bldg 050-3 Rochester, MN 55901