“Quite a few” in this case is that they’ve sold out of the Edition 1 quantity,
which I didn’t see any numbers for. It could be 50, or it could be 2,000.
Either way, the other thing the limited range with 200kWh battery does is means
that even though it supports 350kW DC Fast, that’s still going to take a
substantial amount of time to charge up if actually traveling. Plus, I have to
wonder what the range hit is when towing.
—
Robert Cole
On Oct 22, 2020, 5:31 PM -0400, Mark Bishop <mcbishop111@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
Eric,
I agree with your assessment of the Hummer, range,cost,,efficiency, battery
supply limitations, etc. However there were quite a few orders placed. I
think their market might be the Ford Raptor folks.
Mark B
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 1:17 PM Eric Cardwell <ecardwell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jonathan, my thought is they are going after the guys paying $100k for a
Ford Raptor, those off road guys, they want to keep it nitch so that it
doesn't vulture any sales from a future Silverado/Nikola actual every
man's truck that will be coming out who knows when.
I also think they have to go low volume cause LG just doesn't have the
battery production capacity! GM/LG needs to invest heavily in more
battery production!
Bigger issue I have is that I found out it is a 200kwh battery, but they
are only getting 350+ range. 200Kwh in say their Chevy Bolt which has an
efficiency of ~300 watts a mile, would mean you could get 650+ miles on
that battery!!!
So that tells me, as we could guess, the Hummer is horribly inefficient.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 12:41 PM Overly, Jonathan G
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I thought GM lost sight of the opportunity coming out with a truck
that costs over $100k. I think they saw the larger EV buys that Tesla
Model X and S people are laying out (that are in the $50-100k range)
and believe that will translate into (old and relatively
aesthetically uninteresting) Hummer buys. I guess we will see!
Jonathan
East TN Clean Fuels Coalition + Tennessee Clean Fuels
311 Conference Center Building
Knoxville, TN 37996-4134
865-974-3625 – office | 865-803-7555 – cell
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From: knoxev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <knoxev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Marty Young
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:32 PM
To: knoxev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [knoxev] Re: KEVA members instantly respond to the Hummer EV
introduction!
[External Email]
Hi Eric,
Thanks for setting this up. It was a lot of fun!
After we finished the Zoom call, I went to the Tesla website to
double-check the specs on the Cybertruck (I should have done that
while we were meeting). Turns out the Cybertruck is an even better
bargain relative to the Hummer than I thought!
The highest level spec of the Cybertruck is the three-motor version
and should be coming out about the same time as the Hummer. It is
going to be just as powerful (if not more so), faster 0-60, and will
have a range of more than 500 miles (compared to the Hummer's 350
miles). And, most significantly, the Cybertruck will cost $70,000.
That is more than $40,000 LESS than the Hummer!!!
All of this just underscores how far ahead Tesla is in terms of
efficiency and cost relative to the legacy automakers. When I said
the Hummer will have an uphill climb, I didn't realize just how steep
of a climb it actually is!
Marty
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 12:18 AM Eric Cardwell <ecardwell@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hey all,
I got the wild idea to throw together a spontaneous zoom meeting
with some of our members to discuss the details of the Hummer EV
shortly after the page went live!
Our discussion is already up on YouTube for anyone that wants to
watch! YouTube should edit out the intro by the time you check it
out.
Here's to hoping our first attempt at spontaneous content goes over
well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRVGmBw0ldk
Here is the GMC page for anyone wanting to check out the website
https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev?
Thanks to those that allowed me to bug them to do this on a Tuesday
night!
Eric
President of Knoxville Electric Vehicle Association