Hi,
I don't get it, either. By any chance, Sarah, have you got, just
like me, punctuation off? I'm thinking it might be a punctuation
thing.
Sent from a BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 22:31:18 -0700
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Fourth GEN Apple TV and the new
VoiceOver audio channels setting
So you are not hearing all kinds of table mark up where it
doesn't need to be? Maybe it depends on the email. I get a
substantial number of emails where they have used table for
formatting purposes, not for data. And I'm always getting these
readouts of row and column numbers. And then on the web we have
Reading of them things like landmark article, end of article.
And other HTML markup that you don't need to hear, since you
can't act on it. At the very least, it should be something you
could turn off in the verbosity area of voiceover. But you can't
turn it off.
Mary
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On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Actually for me there is no markdown mess, or mark up mess when
I read emails, they come out beautiful and html renders
correctly.
Take care.
On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Wow! That is really disappointing. I can't believe they would
make a feature for the very few amongst us who have a mixer, but
they can't be bothered cleaning up the mess they made with all
that extra HTML markup that shows up in mail messages and on the
web and makes reading a pain in the butt. Talk about strange
priorities. I have sent a note to excess ability, and if I get
anything more explanatory on this voiceover routing feature, I
will certainly pass it on.
Mary
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On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I believe this only works if you have a mixer, or so I've ben
told. I herd it doesn't work the way we thought, but I'm not yet
sure. I'd love to learn how this works as well.
On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I just got my fourth generation Apple TV upgraded to the latest
version of tvOS. It has that new feature where you were supposed
to be able to send the audio from VoiceOver to somewhere other
than where the audio from the Apple TV program goes. This
feature is absolutely not working here. I paired the Apple TV
with a Bluetooth speaker. Everything goes there. VoiceOver goes
there. Apple TV programming goes there instead of to our sound
bar. There is no way to split it off, so that the audio from
VoiceOver stays on the Bluetooth, but the audio from the TV goes
back to the sound bar. In that audio routing thing in the
voiceover area, if the Bluetooth speaker is paired, it is the
only setting. You can set voiceover anywhere else. And with
that sent there, if you go into the audio video and try to send
audio back to the television, everything goes there. And then
the Bluetooth connection is lost for voiceover. If there are
instructions on some specific order of how you have to do this, I
would certainly love it. I have been looking forward to this
feature for months, because my AppleTV voiceover is basically
unusable when sent through our sound bar, because so much of
VoiceOver gets cut off. It goes great through the Bluetooth
speaker. But we don't want program audio going there too.
Mary
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