No, it is not a punctuation thing. I have mine set to some, but just for the
sake of testing this, I said it to none. It makes no difference, as it
shouldn't, since this is HTML markup, not punctuation. Also, setting
punctuation to none does very bad things for Alex's intonation and sentence
prosody. So I put it back. With the list's indulgence, I am going to forward a
message that exhibits this problem, so that others can hear what I am talking
about. I hope this is OK. I'm just forwarding this message as an example.
Message to follow separately.
Mary
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On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:01 AM, rajmund <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:************
Hi,
I don't get it, either. By any chance, Sarah, have you got, just like me,
punctuation off? I'm thinking it might be a punctuation thing.
Sent from a BrailleNote
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 22:31:18 -0700
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Fourth GEN Apple TV and the new VoiceOver audio
channels setting
So you are not hearing all kinds of table mark up where it doesn't need to
be? Maybe it depends on the email. I get a substantial number of emails
where they have used table for formatting purposes, not for data. And I'm
always getting these readouts of row and column numbers. And then on the web
we have Reading of them things like landmark article, end of article. And
other HTML markup that you don't need to hear, since you can't act on it. At
the very least, it should be something you could turn off in the verbosity
area of voiceover. But you can't turn it off.
Mary
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On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Actually for me there is no markdown mess, or mark up mess when I read
emails, they come out beautiful and html renders correctly.
Take care.
On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wow! That is really disappointing. I can't believe they would make a feature
for the very few amongst us who have a mixer, but they can't be bothered
cleaning up the mess they made with all that extra HTML markup that shows up
in mail messages and on the web and makes reading a pain in the butt. Talk
about strange priorities. I have sent a note to excess ability, and if I get
anything more explanatory on this voiceover routing feature, I will certainly
pass it on.
Mary
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On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I believe this only works if you have a mixer, or so I've ben told. I herd
it doesn't work the way we thought, but I'm not yet sure. I'd love to learn
how this works as well.
On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just got my fourth generation Apple TV upgraded to the latest version of
tvOS. It has that new feature where you were supposed to be able to send the
audio from VoiceOver to somewhere other than where the audio from the Apple
TV program goes. This feature is absolutely not working here. I paired the
Apple TV with a Bluetooth speaker. Everything goes there. VoiceOver goes
there. Apple TV programming goes there instead of to our sound bar. There
is no way to split it off, so that the audio from VoiceOver stays on the
Bluetooth, but the audio from the TV goes back to the sound bar. In that
audio routing thing in the voiceover area, if the Bluetooth speaker is
paired, it is the only setting. You can set voiceover anywhere else. And
with that sent there, if you go into the audio video and try to send audio
back to the television, everything goes there. And then the Bluetooth
connection is lost for voiceover. If there are instructions on some specific
order of how you have to do this, I would certainly love it. I have been
looking forward to this feature for months, because my AppleTV voiceover is
basically unusable when sent through our sound bar, because so much of
VoiceOver gets cut off. It goes great through the Bluetooth speaker. But we
don't want program audio going there too.
Mary
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