Yes, please do, I will check it with my things, as well. I have punctuation off
at all times, regardless of who I'm using.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx>
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:46 pm
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Fourth GEN Apple TV and the new VoiceOver audio
channels setting
e to do this, I would certainly love it. I have been looking forward to this
No, it is not a punctuation thing. I have mine set to some, but just for the
sake of testing this, I said it to none. It makes no difference, as it
shouldn't, since this is HTML markup, not punctuation. Also, setting
punctuation to none does very bad things for Alex's intonation and sentence
prosody. So I put it back. With the list's indulgence, I am going to forward
a message that exhibits this problem, so that others can hear what I am
talking about. I hope this is OK. I'm just forwarding this message as an
example. Message to follow separately.
Mary
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On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:01 AM, rajmund <brajmund2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
I don't get it, either. By any chance, Sarah, have you got, just like me,
punctuation off? I'm thinking it might be a punctuation thing.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 22:31:18 -0700
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Fourth GEN Apple TV and the new VoiceOver audio
channels setting
So you are not hearing all kinds of table mark up where it doesn't need to
be? Maybe it depends on the email. I get a substantial number of emails
where they have used table for formatting purposes, not for data. And I'm
always getting these readouts of row and column numbers. And then on the
web we have Reading of them things like landmark article, end of article.
And other HTML markup that you don't need to hear, since you can't act on
it. At the very least, it should be something you could turn off in the
verbosity area of voiceover. But you can't turn it off.
Mary
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On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Actually for me there is no markdown mess, or mark up mess when I read
emails, they come out beautiful and html renders correctly.
Take care.
On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wow! That is really disappointing. I can't believe they would make a
feature for the very few amongst us who have a mixer, but they can't be
bothered cleaning up the mess they made with all that extra HTML markup
that shows up in mail messages and on the web and makes reading a pain in
the butt. Talk about strange priorities. I have sent a note to excess
ability, and if I get anything more explanatory on this voiceover routing
feature, I will certainly pass it on.
Mary
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On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I believe this only works if you have a mixer, or so I've ben told. I herd
it doesn't work the way we thought, but I'm not yet sure. I'd love to
learn how this works as well.
On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Mary Otten <motten53@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just got my fourth generation Apple TV upgraded to the latest version of
tvOS. It has that new feature where you were supposed to be able to send
the audio from VoiceOver to somewhere other than where the audio from the
Apple TV program goes. This feature is absolutely not working here. I
paired the Apple TV with a Bluetooth speaker. Everything goes there.
VoiceOver goes there. Apple TV programming goes there instead of to our
sound bar. There is no way to split it off, so that the audio from
VoiceOver stays on the Bluetooth, but the audio from the TV goes back to
the sound bar. In that audio routing thing in the voiceover area, if the
Bluetooth speaker is paired, it is the only setting. You can set voiceover
anywhere else. And with that sent there, if you go into the audio video
and try to send audio back to the television, everything goes there. And
then the Bluetooth connection is lost for voiceover. If there are
instructions on some specific order of how you hav
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