And what's have to do with the subject line??? > -----Original Message----- > From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mac4theblind- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dogstar172 > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 17:13 > To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: I did it....New I pad! > > I have found no matter where it is, when it comes to accessibility > products, generally, I have found some who do not know and others who > know. Then with the group that does not know, its a matter of > presentation. We each get an opportunity to educate and inform. I > have found most of the people I have encountered are very open to learn > and become better informed. > Angie > On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:50 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote: > > > all I do is show them, telling them or asking them leads to onfusion > more often than not. Usually when you show them, the recognize it. > > > > On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:28 AM, Christohper-Mark Gilland wrote: > > > > Unfortunately, I'm finding this to be more and more the case. It > seems most Apple specialests simply don't know about Voiceover. I > literally went into an Apple store the other day, and was shooting the > dice with a genious. I brought up the subject of Voiceover, and the > didn't even know what it was or that it existed. They thought I meant > like an app for doing voiceover naration for a movie etc. When I > mentioned about Universal Access on the Mac, they kind a shrugged, and > said, what's that? > > > > I've found a few reps who really! know there stuff, bigtime, but it's > very very very very! hard to come by. Kind a makes me wonder how much > training some of these guys really are truely getting. > > > > Frankly, if it was my decision, which it's not, but if! hypotheticly > it were, I'd personally see to it, that in training there was a whole > in depth section completely devoted to not just Vopiceover, but more to > Universal Access, in a whole. > > > > Chris. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catnip" <ajokitty@xxxxx> > > To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:27 AM > > Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: I did it....New I pad! > > > > > >> As I said. He will definitely hear from me. Just sorry I didn't > record our > >> conversation. > >> > >> People who hate cats will come back as mice! > >> > >> ************ > >> > >> > >> You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > >> > >> > >> The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > >> > >> //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > >> > >> The list archive is located at > >> > >> //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > >> > >> All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > >> > >> john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ************ > > > > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > > > The list archive is located at > > > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > -- > > Jonnie Appleseed > > With His > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > > Touching The Internet > > Reducing Technology's disabilities > > One Byte At A Tie > > > > ************ > > > > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > > > The list archive is located at > > > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ************ > > > You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. > > > The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any > changes to their list subscription is: > > //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind > > The list archive is located at > > //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ > > All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: > > john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx